Friday 12/11/15 NBA discussion thread

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I like this card. First thoughts are Suns, Pels, Memphis, Minny and Over in Utah...
 
like POR-PHO U210: both meetings finished under this season, refs combined are 36-16 U/O in this match up, like minny-1 and perhaps GS-BOS U216, GS is on a 7 game over streak, number is slightly inflated to my mind, could have a letdown after more than 250 pts last game vs pacers
 
Would figure David Lee knows all the Warriors' set plays or at least most of them.

Interesting game.
 
Would be wary of an under play in Boston. On one hand it makes sense because boston plays excellent team d and will give it their all. On the other both teams love to push it so we could see a lot of shots. Saw 6 earlier. Think warriors cover

Leaning
Det
Suns
Jazz

But work to do
 
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I like Boston ML and ATS. Took both bets. Boston plays well against teams with high turnover ratio and you would think that Stevens will be more ready than other coaches to the Warriors and their offense.
I'm worried a bit about Boston scoring, since GSW also great defensive team, so might add a bit on the Under as well.

Took the Suns as well. Phoenix won easily both games with Portland so far this season and nothing I saw since, makes me think that things will end different this time. I firmly believe that Portland will struggle against good back courts and can really punish you, if you have a bad back court.

Took Memphis as well. I think that Hornets very very very very very long home stand (last 9 out of 10 at home) caused bookies and public over react to them, especially since they won the only game on the road (Bulls). If there is a game where they will miss the big body of Big Al in the paint, it's this one.

Love the Bucks. Toronto won Cleveland and SA and covered against the Warriors, but lost to Suns and Denver. Carroll out is huge and the fact that DeRozan usually plays well against small shooting guards and will face probably the tallest back court in the league.

Took Pels. Both teams don't look good and Gortat being back, after the negative things he said, probably works against the Wizards. the fact that Pels have much much better schedule spot helps as well. The thing they needed the most is rest, practice in full roster and do some video sessions and probably got all of that covered.

Over in Utah for obvious reasons.

Have 12 - 13 plays today. Biggest card I had this season so far by far (previous one was 5 plays)...
 
Can we get some chatter about this Magic/Cavs game? Magic are coming off of a long road trip. Cavs are rested and will get more rest after this game. How big of a loss is JR Smith tonight? How big is Shumpert being back? Part of me tells me the Cavs role. Anyone with any additional insight?
 
emg2525 said:
Can we get some chatter about this Magic/Cavs game? Magic are coming off of a long road trip. Cavs are rested and will get more rest after this game. How big of a loss is JR Smith tonight? How big is Shumpert being back? Part of me tells me the Cavs role. Anyone with any additional insight?
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Smith out is a positive for the Cavs. How much will Shump play? More Dellavadova ??
I like the Magic here +3 - that alone should give you the cover for the Cavs - :)
 
emg2525 said:
Can we get some chatter about this Magic/Cavs game? Magic are coming off of a long road trip. Cavs are rested and will get more rest after this game. How big of a loss is JR Smith tonight? How big is Shumpert being back? Part of me tells me the Cavs role. Anyone with any additional insight?
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I love Cleveland and played them, but as tuck keeps saying and he is right, Cavs have yet to cover off two days rest (0 - 6 ATS and 3 - 3 SU). Have no clue why, but it's a fact. I really like the fact that after last season, when Bron kept asking his minutes to drop and Blatt said that he hopes to be able to do so, this season, it's the other way around. Bron should be really ready for this one.

Smith? Don't see any problem with him being out, even if Shumpert won't play. Out of Smith, Mo and Delli, I rate only the last one as important. Smith been good and bad and clearly not as hot as last season. I have love for Mo, but everything he gives on offense, he takes back on defense...
 
There is a massive talent differential between the Warriors and my C's. The only way the Warriors don't cover is if they have a bad bad game. IMHO. I hope I'm wrong
 
BJPLAYER said:
There is a massive talent differential between the Warriors and my C's. The only way the Warriors don't cover is if they have a bad bad game. IMHO. I hope I'm wrong
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Most definitely is BUT the celtics do play good team defense and they are surprisingly much better than youd expect when you look at their roster on paper. That's coaching.
 
nba you make a good point and i'm cognizant....i can see the warriors getting out big and the c's just keep chipping away right till the end...but the line is just too short....my son who is a rabid c's fan and does not gamble guessed the line at 5.5 yesterday (lucky little prick)...i guessed it at 9.5....he is convincing in his arguments and wishes dearly that smart were playing which he feels would give the c's a punchers chance of winning....so funny...he rivals tommy heinson when it comes to being a homer....just can't bet my c's tonight....maybe gsw 1h
 
Be careful with memphis and pels

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I like Boston ML and ATS. Took both bets. Boston plays well against teams with high turnover ratio and you would think that Stevens will be more ready than other coaches to the Warriors and their offense.
I'm worried a bit about Boston scoring, since GSW also great defensive team, so might add a bit on the Under as well.

Took the Suns as well. Phoenix won easily both games with Portland so far this season and nothing I saw since, makes me think that things will end different this time. I firmly believe that Portland will struggle against good back courts and can really punish you, if you have a bad back court.

Took Memphis as well. I think that Hornets very very very very very long home stand (last 9 out of 10 at home) caused bookies and public over react to them, especially since they won the only game on the road (Bulls). If there is a game where they will miss the big body of Big Al in the paint, it's this one.

Love the Bucks. Toronto won Cleveland and SA and covered against the Warriors, but lost to Suns and Denver. Carroll out is huge and the fact that DeRozan usually plays well against small shooting guards and will face probably the tallest back court in the league.

Took Pels. Both teams don't look good and Gortat being back, after the negative things he said, probably works against the Wizards. the fact that Pels have much much better schedule spot helps as well. The thing they needed the most is rest, practice in full roster and do some video sessions and probably got all of that covered.

Over in Utah for obvious reasons.

Have 12 - 13 plays today. Biggest card I had this season so far by far (previous one was 5 plays)...
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indy coming off 3L....one 3 game lose streak at beginning of year and since never more than 2 in a row...mia off 2L and looking at their record and current form would lead me to think indy wins this....they never gave up against the warriors and mia seems to have a hard time sustaining effort against good teams....johnson out for heat and whiteside with bum ankle...heat will probably give george defensive attention so he probably won't go off for 36 again....feels like indy
 
cavs tough to figure....shubert back so d will be better....won last game after 3 ugly losses when the king took over and put it away late....magic home after a successful 5 game roadie W6 of 8 but L2 of 3.....home for one night to get laid and play a game before heading out to play a winnable game at nets....first game back after a roadie is always the toughest the players say...magic have been playing really well but the good form may be eroding...tough to see cavs losing
 
philly worst team in the history of the world....det tough to figure...coming off 2L and have indy on deck tomorrow...legitimate "let's save some energy for the team that is actually a bb team" possibility...can't lay the points....will never bet philly....sets up for a nice 2h play if det down by 6-8 at that point....otherwise pass
 
Probably Orlando should be avoided with how their coach changes rotations and doesn't give a fair chance to some players
 
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