Dr. Bob INGAME
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CollegeKingRex
CTG Regular
He was also two pretty poor beats away from turning it around last week and the plays from last week were much closer in nature to what he was churning out at this point last year. I'd say he's real close to getting it turned around.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
From bobs website for those tracking him
Weekly and Season to Date Results
I had 6 Best Bets on Saturday and went 3-3 even though I felt like I should have been 5-1 - or 4-2 at the very worst. It's just been one of those seasons where I'm losing games due to turnovers and not winning many games (or any) due to turnovers. I lost both of my 4-Star Best Bets on Houston and Oklahoma, won my 3-Star on Texas Tech 35-7, I made one bet that I should have lost - Illinois for 2-Stars.I continue to lose games due to extreme turnover differentials, as I lost Houston despite the fact that the Cougars out-gained Rice 748 yards to 441 yards, which would normally translate into a 30 point win. Houston fumbled a kickoff at the 17 yard line in the first quarter that led to a 17 yard Rice TD drive, they turned the ball over at the 5 yard line which led to a 5 yard Rice TD then fumbled the ensuing kickoff at the 14 yard line which led to a 14 yard Owls TD. To top off the first half the Cougars had the ball first and goal at the Rice 1 yard line and then fumbled to avoid a sure touchdown of their own. That's 28 points on random turnovers and Houston won by only 8 points despite their 307 yard total yards advantage in that game. That game went exactly how I thought it would go, with Houston scoring on nearly every possession but Rice covered despite having just 3 scoring drives of more than 17 yards while Houston had 8 touchdown drives of 65 yards or more. There is a difference between a bad bet and a bet that loses and Houston was a very good bet that lost because of random turnovers. Despite the bad luck in the Houston game it still looked like I'd have a pretty profitable day until Missouri scored with 12 seconds left to lose by 10 to Oklahoma and cover by 1/2 a point. What makes that worse is that Oklahoma missed 2 extra points when making 1 of those would have been enough to win. That Oklahoma game really could have gone either way, but I seem to be losing every game like that. I am now an unthinkable 13-22 on my College Best Bets this season and 31-60 on a Star Basis. I'm using the same math model and situational analysis that has worked so well for me over the years and all I can do is continue to work hard and use the same methods that have always worked. My Strong Opinions went 2-2 for the week with wins on San Jose State and utah and losses on UTEP and Pitt.
I know it's hard to have faith in my Best Bets given my poor results so far this year, but I've shown in recent years that I can make up my losses pretty quickly. Those clients that have been with me in recent years certainly remember my 6 straight winning weeks last season (from week 3 through week 8) when I went 68-29-5 on a Star Basis. Or, my 7 straight winning weeks in 2005 (week 1 through week 7) when I was 63-19-2 on a Star Basis. And my 6 straight winning weeks in 2004 (week 3 through 8) in which I was 62-27-2 on a Star Basis - so I can certainly turn this season around pretty quickly. Another streak like that this year and I'll have yet another winning season despite the last 3 weeks of bad results. It is certainly the case that my 57% college Best Bet win percentage on over 1500 Best Bets in 20 years is more significant evidence of my ability than the 13-22 record on a sample of just 35 Best Bets. I know you're not really concerned with how I've done in past years because you're losing this year (unless you were fortunate enough to have been a client in those years), but my long term 57% winning record is more indicative of my future success than my 13-22 record so far this season and the future is all that matters at this point as nothing can be done about the losses I've suffered so far this season. I've overcome bad streaks before and I'll overcome this one as well. I may not end this season with a winning record given my bad start but I'm very likely to have a winning record from this point on given my long term win percentage.
Weekly and Season to Date Results
I had 6 Best Bets on Saturday and went 3-3 even though I felt like I should have been 5-1 - or 4-2 at the very worst. It's just been one of those seasons where I'm losing games due to turnovers and not winning many games (or any) due to turnovers. I lost both of my 4-Star Best Bets on Houston and Oklahoma, won my 3-Star on Texas Tech 35-7, I made one bet that I should have lost - Illinois for 2-Stars.I continue to lose games due to extreme turnover differentials, as I lost Houston despite the fact that the Cougars out-gained Rice 748 yards to 441 yards, which would normally translate into a 30 point win. Houston fumbled a kickoff at the 17 yard line in the first quarter that led to a 17 yard Rice TD drive, they turned the ball over at the 5 yard line which led to a 5 yard Rice TD then fumbled the ensuing kickoff at the 14 yard line which led to a 14 yard Owls TD. To top off the first half the Cougars had the ball first and goal at the Rice 1 yard line and then fumbled to avoid a sure touchdown of their own. That's 28 points on random turnovers and Houston won by only 8 points despite their 307 yard total yards advantage in that game. That game went exactly how I thought it would go, with Houston scoring on nearly every possession but Rice covered despite having just 3 scoring drives of more than 17 yards while Houston had 8 touchdown drives of 65 yards or more. There is a difference between a bad bet and a bet that loses and Houston was a very good bet that lost because of random turnovers. Despite the bad luck in the Houston game it still looked like I'd have a pretty profitable day until Missouri scored with 12 seconds left to lose by 10 to Oklahoma and cover by 1/2 a point. What makes that worse is that Oklahoma missed 2 extra points when making 1 of those would have been enough to win. That Oklahoma game really could have gone either way, but I seem to be losing every game like that. I am now an unthinkable 13-22 on my College Best Bets this season and 31-60 on a Star Basis. I'm using the same math model and situational analysis that has worked so well for me over the years and all I can do is continue to work hard and use the same methods that have always worked. My Strong Opinions went 2-2 for the week with wins on San Jose State and utah and losses on UTEP and Pitt.
I know it's hard to have faith in my Best Bets given my poor results so far this year, but I've shown in recent years that I can make up my losses pretty quickly. Those clients that have been with me in recent years certainly remember my 6 straight winning weeks last season (from week 3 through week 8) when I went 68-29-5 on a Star Basis. Or, my 7 straight winning weeks in 2005 (week 1 through week 7) when I was 63-19-2 on a Star Basis. And my 6 straight winning weeks in 2004 (week 3 through 8) in which I was 62-27-2 on a Star Basis - so I can certainly turn this season around pretty quickly. Another streak like that this year and I'll have yet another winning season despite the last 3 weeks of bad results. It is certainly the case that my 57% college Best Bet win percentage on over 1500 Best Bets in 20 years is more significant evidence of my ability than the 13-22 record on a sample of just 35 Best Bets. I know you're not really concerned with how I've done in past years because you're losing this year (unless you were fortunate enough to have been a client in those years), but my long term 57% winning record is more indicative of my future success than my 13-22 record so far this season and the future is all that matters at this point as nothing can be done about the losses I've suffered so far this season. I've overcome bad streaks before and I'll overcome this one as well. I may not end this season with a winning record given my bad start but I'm very likely to have a winning record from this point on given my long term win percentage.
texasfight
Karl Marx sucks balls
He's so full of shit. Mizzu was winning outright with 1 minute left in the third quarter catching 11-12 points depending on when you bet the game. A fumble return for a TD and a pick deep in Mizzu territory setting up a 3 play 20 yard drive gave mobilehoma the brief cover with 2 minutes to go. Mizzu's backdoor TD was sweet justice for Tiger backers. WAAAAAAAH, Dr. bob.
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
he means that the illinois game was a game that he should have lost and did but that his other two losses , houston and oklahomos , he feels he should have won.
i tend to agree with texasfight ... could have sworn there was a mishandled exchange near the end of that mizzu game that resulted in a defensive score for oklahoma. would love to show bob what has happened to me in second halves of games this year ... see how hard he would cry then
i tend to agree with texasfight ... could have sworn there was a mishandled exchange near the end of that mizzu game that resulted in a defensive score for oklahoma. would love to show bob what has happened to me in second halves of games this year ... see how hard he would cry then
RetroVK
This claim is disputed
blue chip
it does not make you a square. the guy has been a solid capper for a long period of time. this is just 7 weeks of results for one year for him. Also he usually has some good information in his writeups and what he likes moves the lines ... so we would be fools not to be interested in drbob as he is relevant to cfb betting
it does not make you a square. the guy has been a solid capper for a long period of time. this is just 7 weeks of results for one year for him. Also he usually has some good information in his writeups and what he likes moves the lines ... so we would be fools not to be interested in drbob as he is relevant to cfb betting
ditto
ShotCallas
Pretty much a regular
Say this on another forum. Not sure if there is any truth to it or not. Nonetheless, here is what one subscriber is saying:
Just joined the posting forum, but have been a longtime reader. There's really some great stuff in here and I appreciate all the information.
I'm sure all of you one time or another have heard of the handicapper/tout by the name of Bob Stoll, a.k.a, Dr. Bob. For the last couple years in college football he has hit a rate of 60-65% of his games, leading to a Wall Street Journal Article about his success and a numerous of clients paying $1000 for the college football season.
When joining his service (unfortunately, I did this year), you have access to his Best Bets ranked from 2-5 Stars. His college football plays are released every Thursday at 4:45pm eastern. At that time, he posts how many Best Bets he has for the week and releases them every three minutes after that.
Dr. Bob claims to have success with his service you need to bet his Best Bets immediately due to line changes. The line changes anywhere from 1-4 points about 2-3 minutes after each Best Bet is released. Bob claims that the line movement is due to the success he has had in the past and that most sportsbooks have caught on.
Well this year he's a pathetic 10-20 with his best bets (3-15 the last 3 weeks), which he claims is totally uncharacteristic of his past success. Bob has told his clients (me included) that his poor record is "simple variance," and a indication of his performance should be looked at his 57-60% rate he's had in the past.
I'd decided to look further into it. I've got a family member that works at a Vegas sportsbook. When talking to him this AM, he asked how I was doing this year in college football, and I said I was betting Dr. Bob's best bets and he's hitting about 20% instead of the 60% in years past. He began laughing and went on to say, "Well there's a reason for that. I'd be very careful with Dr. Bob, he's crooked."
When asking what he meant by that comment he elaborated by saying Dr. Bob has been approached by a huge Vegas gambler that paid him a tremendous amount of money (5 million) to release the wrong side of his Best Bets to his clients. In turn the line would change 1-4 points, and then this Vegas gambler and Dr. Bob could bet the other side, the correct side that Dr. Bob would normally release to his clients in the past, and get the better line.
Apparently, this vegas gambler has been doing this for the past 3 weeks which could help explain Dr. Bob's horrible 3-15 record. So beware Dr. Bob players, proceed with caution...the only one's benefiting from his service are the Vegas gambler, Dr. Bob and sportsbooks (local, offshore or Vegas). So either quit betting on his plays or go the opposite side of his Best Bet releases.
I've heard this from 3 different sources.
Remember, Dr Bob does not bet on games, just sells them.
Just joined the posting forum, but have been a longtime reader. There's really some great stuff in here and I appreciate all the information.
I'm sure all of you one time or another have heard of the handicapper/tout by the name of Bob Stoll, a.k.a, Dr. Bob. For the last couple years in college football he has hit a rate of 60-65% of his games, leading to a Wall Street Journal Article about his success and a numerous of clients paying $1000 for the college football season.
When joining his service (unfortunately, I did this year), you have access to his Best Bets ranked from 2-5 Stars. His college football plays are released every Thursday at 4:45pm eastern. At that time, he posts how many Best Bets he has for the week and releases them every three minutes after that.
Dr. Bob claims to have success with his service you need to bet his Best Bets immediately due to line changes. The line changes anywhere from 1-4 points about 2-3 minutes after each Best Bet is released. Bob claims that the line movement is due to the success he has had in the past and that most sportsbooks have caught on.
Well this year he's a pathetic 10-20 with his best bets (3-15 the last 3 weeks), which he claims is totally uncharacteristic of his past success. Bob has told his clients (me included) that his poor record is "simple variance," and a indication of his performance should be looked at his 57-60% rate he's had in the past.
I'd decided to look further into it. I've got a family member that works at a Vegas sportsbook. When talking to him this AM, he asked how I was doing this year in college football, and I said I was betting Dr. Bob's best bets and he's hitting about 20% instead of the 60% in years past. He began laughing and went on to say, "Well there's a reason for that. I'd be very careful with Dr. Bob, he's crooked."
When asking what he meant by that comment he elaborated by saying Dr. Bob has been approached by a huge Vegas gambler that paid him a tremendous amount of money (5 million) to release the wrong side of his Best Bets to his clients. In turn the line would change 1-4 points, and then this Vegas gambler and Dr. Bob could bet the other side, the correct side that Dr. Bob would normally release to his clients in the past, and get the better line.
Apparently, this vegas gambler has been doing this for the past 3 weeks which could help explain Dr. Bob's horrible 3-15 record. So beware Dr. Bob players, proceed with caution...the only one's benefiting from his service are the Vegas gambler, Dr. Bob and sportsbooks (local, offshore or Vegas). So either quit betting on his plays or go the opposite side of his Best Bet releases.
I've heard this from 3 different sources.
Remember, Dr Bob does not bet on games, just sells them.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Yeah, I'm not sure why I tend to give this guy more slack than most touts, but I do. Add to that the fact that I feel I've taken a number of s**tty beats myself this year, more than normal and concentrated in the span of a few weeks, I can sympathize with the guy.
That said, these things happen. They just do. And at some point it turns, maybe not as hard as it turned bad, maybe not for as long, but those beats do even out somewhat.
I actually think he will turn it around. I don't think he's going to have a monster season, he may not even have a monster run. But I think he'll get that star basis thing back up around 50% or better.
That said, these things happen. They just do. And at some point it turns, maybe not as hard as it turned bad, maybe not for as long, but those beats do even out somewhat.
I actually think he will turn it around. I don't think he's going to have a monster season, he may not even have a monster run. But I think he'll get that star basis thing back up around 50% or better.
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
Well, that's extremely interesting info SC.
It's entirely believable, thing is, that would have to be Bob cashing out.
Because if he's going to go down in flames, he can really only do that once, right?
It's entirely believable, thing is, that would have to be Bob cashing out.
Because if he's going to go down in flames, he can really only do that once, right?
bjorks
Secretary of Fondy Fanclub
It's interesting that if you could ever prove he was taking money to go the other way and release "bad" information, you'd bust his ass on collusion. Not that you could ever prove it because it would all be hersay.
I personally don't use touts to make a final decision, everybody sees things differently and I trust myself and my contacts more than a guy who dropped out of college and doesn't have information about game plans, injuries, etc.
I've known guys and some are here that have years where they're above 55-60% so for some guy to be this hyped is all that impressive to me. I'd be interested to know though if he tells people all about his "formulas" if you buy his service. I'd like to know his mathimatical reasoning for his picks.
As for his record this year, everybody has virtually gotten beaten up this year, especially 2 of the last 3 weeks. Somethings are out of our control and it doesn't matter what information we have or what formula we use, weird shit happens, especially with 18-22 year old kids.
I personally don't use touts to make a final decision, everybody sees things differently and I trust myself and my contacts more than a guy who dropped out of college and doesn't have information about game plans, injuries, etc.
I've known guys and some are here that have years where they're above 55-60% so for some guy to be this hyped is all that impressive to me. I'd be interested to know though if he tells people all about his "formulas" if you buy his service. I'd like to know his mathimatical reasoning for his picks.
As for his record this year, everybody has virtually gotten beaten up this year, especially 2 of the last 3 weeks. Somethings are out of our control and it doesn't matter what information we have or what formula we use, weird shit happens, especially with 18-22 year old kids.
Mark's Madness
Member
Here's tonights play
<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>RUTGERS 24 S. Florida (-2.0) 23
04:45 PM Pacific Time Thursday, Oct-18 - Stats Matchup
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=s2>South Florida has climbed all the way to #3 in the polls and #2 in the initial BCS rankings, but that means that they are now the hunted and it looks like another top 5 team may go down to defeat. The Bulls are fantastic defensively, allowing just 3.8 yards per play this season to a schedule of teams that would average 5.3 yppl against an average team, but Rutgers has been nearly as good offensively. The Scarlet Knights have averaged 7.3 yppl this season against teams that would allow 5.9 yppl to an average team. That attack has not played as well, on a relative basis, against decent defensive teams, but I’d still rate Rutgers’ attack at 1.1 yppl better than average after taking that into account. While South Florida has a 0.4 yppl advantage when Rutgers has the ball, the Scarlet Knights have an even bigger edge when their defense is on the field. South Florida has been only 0.2 yppl better than average on offense this season (5.4 yppl against teams that would allow 5.2 yppl to an average team), but Rutgers is 0.7 yppl better than average on defense (4.4 yppl allowed to teams that would average 5.1 yppl against an average defense). I decided to take Rutgers’ game against an overmatched Norfolk State out of my math model while also taking out South Florida’s game against Elon (the Bulls actually didn’t play well in that game as they could have been looking forward to Auburn). The math still favors Rutgers by 1 point and there are positive situations favoring both teams in this game. I’ll lean with Rutgers as a home dog.
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<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>TCU (-3.5) 24 Utah 22
05:00 PM Pacific Time Thursday, Oct-18 - Stats Matchup
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=s2>Utah has won 3 straight games since quarterback Brian Johnson returned to the starting lineup and the Utes have a chance to make it 4 in a row tonight. Johnson doesn’t have the receiving corps that allowed him to average 7.7 yards per pass play as a starter in 2005 and his numbers are a bit below average after compensating for the poor pass defenses that he’s been throwing against. The rushing attack went from horrible to decent when coaches decided not to redshirt Darrell Mack and Mack has piled up 622 yards in his 5 starts while averaging 5.2 ypr. Utah is still 0.2 yards per play below average offensively even with Johnson at quarterback and Mack running the ball and that unit should struggle against a Horned Frogs defense that is 0.7 yppl better than average and has only allowed Texas to average more than 5.0 yppl (Texas only got 5.6 yppl). TCU’s mediocre attack (0.1 yppl below average with Dalton at quarterback) will also struggle in this game against a solid Utah stop unit that’s yielded only 4.9 yppl to teams that would combine to allow 5.5 yppl against an average team. These teams are very even from the line of scrimmage, but Utah has an edge on special teams and my math model only favors the Horned Frogs by 2 points. TCU tends to play their best at home against decent teams (22-6 ATS at home when not favored by more than 13 points), but Utah has a long history of success as an underdog (43-15-2 ATS, 5-3-1 ATS under their current coach). I’ll lean with the Utes but wouldn’t recommend playing this game given the team trends that favor both sides. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>RUTGERS 24 S. Florida (-2.0) 23
04:45 PM Pacific Time Thursday, Oct-18 - Stats Matchup
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=s2>South Florida has climbed all the way to #3 in the polls and #2 in the initial BCS rankings, but that means that they are now the hunted and it looks like another top 5 team may go down to defeat. The Bulls are fantastic defensively, allowing just 3.8 yards per play this season to a schedule of teams that would average 5.3 yppl against an average team, but Rutgers has been nearly as good offensively. The Scarlet Knights have averaged 7.3 yppl this season against teams that would allow 5.9 yppl to an average team. That attack has not played as well, on a relative basis, against decent defensive teams, but I’d still rate Rutgers’ attack at 1.1 yppl better than average after taking that into account. While South Florida has a 0.4 yppl advantage when Rutgers has the ball, the Scarlet Knights have an even bigger edge when their defense is on the field. South Florida has been only 0.2 yppl better than average on offense this season (5.4 yppl against teams that would allow 5.2 yppl to an average team), but Rutgers is 0.7 yppl better than average on defense (4.4 yppl allowed to teams that would average 5.1 yppl against an average defense). I decided to take Rutgers’ game against an overmatched Norfolk State out of my math model while also taking out South Florida’s game against Elon (the Bulls actually didn’t play well in that game as they could have been looking forward to Auburn). The math still favors Rutgers by 1 point and there are positive situations favoring both teams in this game. I’ll lean with Rutgers as a home dog.
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<TABLE><TBODY><TR><TD>TCU (-3.5) 24 Utah 22
05:00 PM Pacific Time Thursday, Oct-18 - Stats Matchup
</TD></TR><TR><TD class=s2>Utah has won 3 straight games since quarterback Brian Johnson returned to the starting lineup and the Utes have a chance to make it 4 in a row tonight. Johnson doesn’t have the receiving corps that allowed him to average 7.7 yards per pass play as a starter in 2005 and his numbers are a bit below average after compensating for the poor pass defenses that he’s been throwing against. The rushing attack went from horrible to decent when coaches decided not to redshirt Darrell Mack and Mack has piled up 622 yards in his 5 starts while averaging 5.2 ypr. Utah is still 0.2 yards per play below average offensively even with Johnson at quarterback and Mack running the ball and that unit should struggle against a Horned Frogs defense that is 0.7 yppl better than average and has only allowed Texas to average more than 5.0 yppl (Texas only got 5.6 yppl). TCU’s mediocre attack (0.1 yppl below average with Dalton at quarterback) will also struggle in this game against a solid Utah stop unit that’s yielded only 4.9 yppl to teams that would combine to allow 5.5 yppl against an average team. These teams are very even from the line of scrimmage, but Utah has an edge on special teams and my math model only favors the Horned Frogs by 2 points. TCU tends to play their best at home against decent teams (22-6 ATS at home when not favored by more than 13 points), but Utah has a long history of success as an underdog (43-15-2 ATS, 5-3-1 ATS under their current coach). I’ll lean with the Utes but wouldn’t recommend playing this game given the team trends that favor both sides. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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CollegeKingRex
CTG Regular
I have heard first post is tonight at 6:15 p.m. Eastern, rather than 5:45... any truth to that, folks?
Joe Public
Gabibbo's Finest
it doesn't matter what information we have or what formula we use, weird shit happens, especially with 18-22 year old kids.
Ain't that the truth. I've lost more money in the last two weeks on missed PATs than I care to think about.
Ain't that the truth. I've lost more money in the last two weeks on missed PATs than I care to think about.
RJ Esq
Prick Since 1974
Let's hope not. I've got shit to do.
ShotCallas
Pretty much a regular
Not sure if it is true or not.
However, I would not go against him tonight b/c these are opinions vs best bets.
GL
ShotCallas
Pretty much a regular
Me too buddy!:cheers:
:smiley_acbk:
AgainstThePublic
Master of the Pickle Tickle
Dr. Bob can go fuck himself and his math models. :36_11_6:
USF to da bank bitches. 'an_horse'
USF to da bank bitches. 'an_horse'
smo1a
Pretty much a regular
I don't believe that either of tonights games are on his radar. They are merely opinions, and not "strong" opinions. Never even saw his site until the link to stats was posted. Looks like he writes up something for every game on the schedule.
My 2 cents, but it clearly looks like these are not on his radar.
My 2 cents, but it clearly looks like these are not on his radar.
TheShadyNFL
Pretty much a regular
Bob seems to pick liek the sharps, I think he will be on Florida, it appears to be a sharp pick imo, I like it at least lol
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
I kinda hope he doesn't take that cause I like Messy this week. They are not a good team but are they 27 points worse than WVU? I know WVU smacked them last yr but they are improved this yr. I say 27 because 25 and 26 are not likely numbers in this game. I honestly don't believe WVU is diverse enough on offense to blow them out by 27+
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
no, i am under the impression that is just a SU pick..
I want to know
1)the % of bets placed on USF
2)the % of money placed on USF
IF 90% of bets are on USF and only 40% of the money, that is something I am looking for
counselor
President of Fondy Fanclub
Fucking squirrel kickers...
TheShadyNFL
Pretty much a regular
covers uses wagerline %'s from what I thought
E.T.G.
One of trus baby mommas
:cheers:
What about percentage of bets placed on USF. I know a website like www.sportsinsights.com does soemthing like that but I don't feel like signing up
