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Week 2
1pm
Jacksonville -10 ( 1 unit)
Tennessee + 8.5 ( 2 units)Beted ( sucker bet)
SF + 3 ( 2 units)
Carolina -7 ( 3 units)
4pm
Det -3 ( 2 units)
Arizona + 3 ( 2 units)
Chicago – 12.5 ( 1 unit)

Leaning
SD + 3.5
Philly -7

Jax
Bobby Petrino installed his new offense in Atlanta and they scored 3 points last week, while they gave up 2 defensive touchdowns. Harrington was Harrington, Warrick Dunn was stuffed by the two big defensive tackles, and I don’t see why their offense would play much better on grass against this Jags defense.

The Jags aren’t going to start the season 0-2 at home, and they probably do win by double digits. The offense isn’t that great, but they should run the ball better, and hopefully they will have a lot of short fields to work with.

Tennessee sucker bet
Everybody really wants to play Peyton Manning after his team won the super bowl and dominated on national tv last week. The fact of the matter is that the colts don’t travel nearly as well ( 4-4 on road last year), and Tennessee is very much a live dog.

- Last year Tennessee lost to the Colts 14-13 and then beat them in Tennessee last year 20-17.
- It is surprising, but the Titans had the best record in the division last year at 4-2 ( Colts 3-3). If this was college football / SEC rules, Manning would have lost the SEC championship in Tennessee last year.
- Titans have the best record ATS in their last 10, going 9-1 at the pay window.
- The Titans went into Jacksonville last week and beat a solid team, and they out rushed them as well. New Orleans game turned one dimensional in the dome for the Colts and made the defense look better than they are. If the Titans play physical, run the ball, and keep it close…
- The Titans have a coaching advantage. Fisher tricked Fungy into foolishly wasting his last timeout in the 2nd meeting last year, that allowed Bironas to attempt that last kick and win the game.
- The public is loving the Colts, but the only real advantage I see them having this game is through the air with their passing attack, 8.5 points is too much for a live home dog.

San Fran- The Rams offense wasn’t in sync last week, but neither was the 49ers offense. I thought the Cardinals defense played pretty good, and that Frank Gore has a chance get some stats this weekend against the Rams. Alex Smith didn’t play that well last week, but maybe he can run some decent high percentage plays like Carolina had last week, and have similar success. The 49ers didn’t have that great of a pass rush last week, but the secondary covered pretty well. I think the Rams offense was noticeably worse last week when Pace got hurt, and I didn’t see that same home field advantage in St. Louis that I was used to seeing. The game was within 2 possessions and many of the fans left early in St. Louis. I do think it is possible that San Fran jumps out to a 2-0 start. You have to like a live dog with high seasonal expectations against the Rams who just lost their left tackle.

Carolina
I see Carolina starting out their season not just 1-0, but 2-0 after Houston, and then 3-0 after next weekend. If the Panthers win this game, I do think they cover. This is Matt Schaubs first career road start and even though he was ok last weekend, this is a better defense and on the road.

I was close to betting on Houston last weekend, and I am not surprised they won. I understand the trends with Carolina being a play as a dog, and a fade as a favorite, but I still like them winning this game.


Detroit-
Minnesota has a good rush D, but their pass D is suspect. That is a great match up for the Lions who pass and don’t care about running the ball. They put up points last week on a decent Oakland defense. They did get help on a defensive touchdown, but they were able to move the ball.

Shaun Rodgers is a beast in the middle, and I was critical of the big money Dwayne white got, but he looked pretty good last week. This play is also a fade on Tavaras Jackson. If you took away a 1 yard screen pass that turned into a 60 yard touchdown, then Jackson didn’t do anything except get undeserved hype.

I also think that if the Lions are losing, they have the offensive fire power to have a chance to come back. If Tavaras Jackson is losing, the Vikings are screwed. The guy had down right dangerous plays while not securing the ball while being tackled, and had throws that missed his receivers so bad it was hilarious. Give the Lions their win at home. I don’t buy the historical trend of the Vikings win streak against Detroit, Fumblepepper throwing bombs to Randy Moss has nothing to do with Tavaras Jackson throwing interceptions.

Arizona
Leinart and the offense had their problems, but the defense looked better ( especially considering they were on the road). Adrian Wilson was often down in the box, and he helped shut down Frank Gore.

At this point in his career, Gore is better than Shaun Alexander. Alexander is getting older, has a ton of carries, and his banged up. M. Morris is hurt, and Seattles best receiver is wearing a 49ers uniform.

The Arizona defense could just be better because of strength and conditioning coach John Lott, and the fact that they weren’t on the field the entire game. I really feel like Arizona played decent enough that they probably should have won in San Fran last weekend ( even with the offense not playing that well).

Arizona also had the best record against the division last year at 4-2 and they beat Seattle last year. I think they will be a live home underdog that has a decent chance of winning. I was more impressed by Arizona going into San Fran than Seattle beating up on Luke Mccown. I didn’t see their whole game, but the offense looked shaky, and if Arizonas defense plays the same as last week, they win. This is also a good fade of the public.

Chicago-
If KC couldn’t do anything in Houston last week, what makes you think that Herm and the 1 dimensional, boring/conservative offense will get on track in Chicago? Chicago pretty much shut down LT, and the Chiefs offense isn’t as good as the Chargers. The Chiefs plan on running LJ and that isn’t going to happen. I expect a lot of punts to Hester and this game could get out of hand ( short fields = points). KC isn’t a good road team (3-5 LY despite making the playoffs), and I expect Huard to come back down to earth now that he’s the man.

Depending on how Sunday goes I am looking to play SD + 3.5 and Philly -7 in prime time.
 
great writeup you had on the recap of the PIT/CLE game...

agree with your Jac play and I lean towards SF, CAR, and CHI...

your ARI and TEN plays make all the sense in the world and normally, I would play them.. had they not been against SEA and INDY...

I'm going to avoid playing the SEA game, but with Indy, I just have to go with the better team and just hope for the best... even though everything is pointing against it... I really hate the fact that the public is drooling all over em', but I won't bet against Manning... the funny thing is, I went against demapples on his Indy bet a couple years ago against Jacksonville... the public was all over Indy there too... he played Jacksonville at +8 and I played Indy at -7... I won my bet and he pushed... so neither of us lost... hopefully we get a td win here and we both prevail... gl bud.
 
Really like your 4:00 games, I'm on two of three (laying off Detroit, but I think they win and cover). I also like Jax, but am not betting any of the games you're playing in the morning. None of them really worry me, though.

Good luck tomorrow.
 
BOL this week, c-gold. Don't think i'm against you on anything. And wow...great fucking line on Tennessee. I'd definitely be on it to at that #.
 
on tenny, zona and chicago with ya.

i cant trust jack again. maybe some grudge there on my part. but i just cant.

gl this weekend.
 
Blitz- I see what your saying, I don't normally like to bet against " good" teams. The only problem is that Indy and Seattle might be .500 road teams again this year. I wouldn't want to bet against those guys at home, but the travel terrible. Not only that, but I am getting points...Arizona should be better, and the Titans have covered 9 of 10.

Speaking of traveling terrible, I believe the Colts travel terrible is not because their quarterback losses focus ( which is why many teams drop off on the road), but because that defense stinks. When they are at home, nurisng a lead, forcing a team to be 1 dimensional, in the loud dome they play better ( last week). That Indy D on grass gets pushed around ( like that jacksonville game last year). The Titans went into Jacksonville and ran all over the Jags, that means they should be able to run wild on the Colts and keep it close. They have big bruisers to block up front, like Kavin Mawae, he will have his boys push those underweight, overrated pass rushers like Freeney and Mathis around.

I love the fact that the public loves Seattle. They were a passing "C" at home last week, while Zona almost went into San Fran and won ( with little offensive output). Not only little offensive output, but passing. Edge actually got some rushing yards last week.

Marcus Tubbs being out really hurts seattle, the passing game didn't work last week, Morris the backup RB is out, and Alexander is banged up.

Zona really was impressive against Gore last week. Their defense wasn't ranked well in the past, but now that Edge ran the ball, they didn't have to be on the field the entire game. They also have their 3 studs healthy, Berry, Dansby, and Wilson. Darnell Dockett looked good on the line too.

Zona beat Seattle at home last year, the the Hawks don't travel well. It wouldn't surpise me to see the home dog that the public hates win here. I think the odds makers saw what I saw in Frisco last week.
 
C-Gold, love your picks, but as a Carolina homer...the golden rule is bet the Panthers as a dog, bet against as a favorite. Especially at home.
 
I understand the Panthers as a favorite factor and I noted that. I think people are so scared to bet Carolina as a favorite that you get value in doing so.

This is Matt Schaubs first career road start. They were "ok" last week, but they face a beefed up Carolina D this week on outdoors grass.

I was suprised at how much the Panters rotated their D-Line and blitzes last week. It seems like their back 7 had good coverage, and they had a number of plays with... 3 man rush, 8 deep

but they also mixed up some a little bit more exotic blitzes.

The Panther offense still looked pretty conservative, except for 1 deep ball over the top to Steve Smith. If the offensive coordinator is going to simplify this offense to reduce the Delhomme mistakes, I am fine with that against Houston this week.
 
I agree that they should cover the number, but my conservative nature makes it hard to pull the trigger...perhaps I'll look at the total. I'm just concerned with our corners and being burnt on some deep balls.
 
If they "should" cover the number, then bet it.

7 points = 1 possession. Houston shouldn't be a particularly good road team ( especially with Scabies first start).

I guess you would agree that Carolina wins this game, so then the question becomes " by how much".

People think that the number "3" is such a key number, but "7" is also, because it signifies one possession. Coaches want to push games out of reach, and don't want that 7 point threshold to be broken.

People feel that betting a -3 line is basically betting who wins the game, but betting -7 on the clearly better team isn't too bad. I don't think Houston is too much of a live dog and if they are searching for the backdoor cover, that Carolina defense looked even stronger in the 4th quarer with all that rotating they did on their D-Line.
 
Good Luck C-Gold. I've been thinking about that Chicago line for a few days now but just havent pulled the trigger. I played them on the Suicide Contest at work for this week...haha

:cheers:
 
C Gold I just locked in Detroit -3 ,I think line soft due to fact minny scored 26 last week ,In reality game was more like a 10-3 minny win .Plus kitna and boys should be able to move ball pretty good against minnys D,And if they can get up on minny thats when the ass whooping begins T Jackson cant bring this team back ,Is the worst QB in NFL IMO Like your card with ya on 2 or 3 no plays on rest BOL today C Gold
 
It is difficult because the Bears offense hasn't impressed anybody, but there are things like defensive led blowouts ( like last week in cleveland).

If the Chiefs catch the kickoff at the 20...
hand off to LJ on 1st down and get stuffed
hand off to LJ on 2nd down and get stuffed
3rd and long they throw an incompletion...

Joe Punter punts the ball 45 yards to the Bears 35 and then it is off to the Races for the best return man in the league. Let's just give Hester 10 yards... That means the Bears are already starting close to midfield.

When your starting in good field positon, you can take some shots downfield to Berrian because if you throw a pick, it doesn't hurt you as bad from a field position standpoint.

- Throwing a 40 yard pass that gets intercepted from your own 20 is devastating.
- Throwing a 40 yard pass that gets picked off from midfield isn't nearly as bad.

If the Bears can stuff LT on the road, I believ ethey can stuff LJ at home. Damon Huard and his mediocre receivers don't scare anybody, and Herm loves to run the offensive version of the prevent defense.

Lot of 3 and outs and mistakes plays right into the Bears hands. They have the #1 return man in the league that will constantly be giving this team field position.

The Cheifs aren't the kind of team that is build to comeback either. Huard is going to be forcing mistakes, and the more the Bears are up, the more they just took LJ out of the game.

Winning by 2 touchdowns doesn't have to be a blowout, but this game could turn into a blowout for the home fans in Chi-town.

It could very well be more of a defensive led huge win like in Cleveland last weekend.
 
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Moneydog- Your absolutly right. Minnys offense really outscored Atlanta 10-3, and it was't due to nice long drives that proved their offense, but 1 long fluke play.

Tavaras Jackson is the worst starting quarterback in the NFL!

I repeat, that bum who throws the ball 20 yards over his receivers heads, and completed less than 55% of his passes in 1AA is the worst starting quarterback in the league.

In the time I watched too, the announcers were drooling over the guy. They think that since he has the " build" of Donovan Mcnabb that means he will be " Mcnabb".

That is like saying that Frank Stalone looks like Sylvester, so they must both be good actors.

The Media is completly ignorant about Jackson.

They talk about his "mobility", but I think that stems from his skin color. The guy is no more mobile than a JP Losman, David Carr etc., but nobody is drooling over those bums anymore.

When I saw Tavaras Jackson at the NFL combine, I thought that you had to be kidding me. The guy had horrible footwork and was a D1AA player that didn't look like he fit in. He couldn't even beat out Matt Jones as the QB at Arkansas so he quit and went to 1AA. Matt Jones is a receiver.

I'd compare Tavaras more to a David Garrard only the Vikings wasted a 2nd round pick on him. Garrard was a developmental late round pick. Garrard is actually a better and stronger runner and is more accurate. Nobody in their right mind would throw Garrard into a passing west coast offense like that, and the Vikings are making a huge mistake with him.

I stop the mistake and will hopefully profit. You can count on some Kitna mistakes, but at home I think the Lions get the win against the weaker pass D.
 
I think comparing Tavaras Jackson to David Garrard is an insult to Garrard...


Tavaras Jackson is more like a Reggie Ball ! Then again, at least Reggie Ball got to start at quarterback for a 1A team!
 
I think comparing Tavaras Jackson to David Garrard is an insult to Garrard...


Tavaras Jackson is more like a Reggie Ball ! Then again, at least Reggie Ball got to start at quarterback for a 1A team!
:smiley_acbe::cheers: Lets get some Cash C Gold'an_horse''an_horse''an_horse'
 
Off to the gym to get that Lift in before kick off. I should be able to get a couple more questions in right before game time.
 
I can't get on Carolina for two reasons today, wait, three.

1. That home favorite thing.

2. Houston may not be a good AFC team, but I'm convinced that AFC > NFC thing is going to continue this year.

3. The Delholme bounce factor. He played very well last week, that suggests this is one of his down weeks.

That all said, I'm not going to be betting Houston on the road. So I'm just staying away.
 
1. Trivial
2. Just lumping the conferences into 1 giant sterotype is a mistake. If I told you that USC is a better football school than Vanderbelt, it doesn't mean Cutler can't be better than guys who went to USC
3. Trivial
 
Added- San Diego +4 ( 1 unit bodog)

I want to end today plus money.

- SD will be a live dog getting 4 points
- New England has key injuries
- New england is trying to integrate a new group of receives, against a nasty defense.
- New England has this whole " cheaters" cloud over their heads, I don't care about the name calling, I care that it takes focus away from this team.

I think SD wins this game, and the Media tommorow will be saying " the Patriots are 0-1 when playing fair". Whether they win or lose, the whole cheating thing will be in play tommorow

all the idiot people in the media will be coming up with their own dumb theories.
 
6 units on Philly ML (-290)to win a little over 2 units

It isn't a 100 percent lock, but I like my chances tonight.

The Odds dictate the Eagles at winning this game almost 75% of the time ( -290), but they win this game more than 3 out of 4 times. I'd give them at least an 80% chance of winning this game, probably somewhere inbetween 80% and 90%.
 
Week 2
1pm
Jacksonville -10 ( 1 unit) LOSS
Tennessee + 8.5 ( 2 units)Beted ( sucker bet) WIN
SF + 3 ( 2 units) WIN
Carolina -7 ( 3 units) LOSS
4pm
Det -3 ( 2 units) PUSH
Arizona + 3 ( 2 units) WIN
Chicago – 12.5 ( 1 unit) LOSS
San Diego +4 1 unit LOSS
Philly ML = ?
3-4-1 = even money

2 dogs that won outright, 1 that should have ( tennesse)
1 push that is a 2TD win if Kitna stays in and plays the whole game
2 winners that didn't cover
SD wasn't a bad loss because I have huge futures on the Patriots

I haven't watched the tape yet on the Carolina game, but it looks like that was the flat out wrong call. I had 2 dogs win outright ( I am happy), Tennesse should have if they played a little bit smarter in the first half ( stupid 15 yard penalty on vince). The Chicago and Jacksonville games are hard to pile it on, because they won, but they didn't win by enough.

So basically, I feel like I am floating around .500 ball, with good solid wins, and mostly closer losses. There wasn't 1 game in particular that stood out to me this week, so I took the shotgun approach and it could have turned out better if Kitna plays the entire game. I really feel like Carolina was the only real loss I took until sunday night.

I kind of wanted to stick to ATS this year, but I feel like I should start considering MLs and teasers as well.

I used to just go after bets I was pretty sure would win, but now going all ATS is hard sometimes ( when you win but fail to cover). Sometimes I see a game where I think a team has a tremendous chance of winning, but I am not sure if they cover.

Basically: I need to get back to taking what I know, and profiting from it. Fuck the big spreads, fuck everything, just make money.
 
I hear on my local radio that Fred Smoot might not play as well. Not that it matters, but it just puts more pressure on the backups because there WILL be times when the eagles will just spread em out.

I also think losing Jon Janseon at RT is huge for washington. Philly has a hockey rotation on their DL, and Favre was extremly careful last week.

Last week favre would do the old Manning " fake hike" on almost every 3rd and long to see where that blitz was coming from.

He used almost every single second of that play clock all the time ( they were winning). You really have to give Favre credit in that sense

NOW: I don't see Jason Campbell doing that, and I don't see him being smart enough to get that blitz all the time. I wouldn't be surpised if he got pounded and fumbled at least once from some of those exotic overload and zone blitzes.
 
other random thought.

I had the Bears winning 27-10 yesterday, and they were up 20-10 with an interception that was run back about 50 yards instead of 100. I almost had the exact freaking score but I lost! I highlighted the importence in Devin Hester in the return game, and he runs back a touchdown in the return game, but I lost.

In general I don't like these really high point spreads. I like using my knowledge on a 7 points or less spread.

Herm Edwards was still running that ' conservative" offense when his team is down 10 points! You know coming into this game that he's going to run that boring conservative offense, but you don't think he would be content to run that when he's LOSING. Sheesh.
 
I had two dogs win outright as well.. (CLE and TB)... unfortunately... that's all I had... lol.


I agree you did pretty well overall... things coulda and shoulda been better for you...

still a lotta season left.... it'll come.
 
The thing that kills me, is if Kitna plays, Detroit wins. I would have been up 2 units and I would have been thankful to the football gods that I am up 2 units for the week, and I would have just watched SD/NE and Philly/Shitskins.

Then I go out there and bet SD ( I don't care that I lost, because in the long run NE beating SD helps me more than the 1 freaking unit), but now I go out and lay a pretty signifigant play on Washington.

I guess if Philly wins, I will actually be in better shape though, because...
1. NE wins, which helps my NFL futures
2. Philly wins, which helps my NFL futures

If the Beagles lose though, I take a pretty signifigant hit.
 
I didn't even look at the total yet. Couldn't even tell you what it is.
 
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