Bullpens

E.T.G.

E.T.G.

One of trus baby mommas
Add your comments here.. Which ones do you hate? Which ones are you trying to avoid? Here are my observations from Sunday baseball and how bullpens killed people.

How the fuck can these pitchers be so bad, anyone????? The scary part is this is just 1 day of baseball. It happens everyday and is costing people a lot of money. Am I missing something, have bullpens always been this bad. I've been spoiled as a Yankee fan growing up and until this yr, games use to be over when the bullpen came in. Today, I would feel safe with about 3 teams pitching their bullpen and preserving a lead (LAD, BoSox, Padres, maybe Angels)

Orioles give up a 2run homer to Vlad to lose 4-3 in top 9th, it took Chris Ray 7 pitches to lose that game. Anyone surprised here?
Astros lose a game they battle back in because Wheeler gives up 3runs in the top of the 10th to blow a tied game from 5-5 to 8-5, that would be 2 HR's and Albert's second of the day.
Pitt loses a game they are controling the whole time until LAD score 5 runs in the 7th and 8th inning. Torres to blame for that. Yes Gorzelanny gave up 3 runs but the bullpen still had the lead.
Cincinati, Actually typing this as it happened. Game was actually 8-2. Belisle was charged for 5runs but he left with runners on base. Score is now 8-8, Score is now 9-8 Rockies in Top 9.
Rockies, HAH..Had a feeling I would be typing this. Fuentes gets the lead from his team after they are down 8-2 and gives the game right back to the Reds in the top of the 9th..Unbelievable...Now 9-9...WOW
Giants give up 5 runs in the 7th. I know 6 runs were charged to Lincecum but they had 7 runs and Correia got the loss. Philly helps them out giving up a run in the top of 9th but then Giants hand it right back to them.
Phillies get the lead finally after trailing 7-3 and then Madson lets the Giants right back in the game in the top of the 9th so they tie it.


Comments?
 
I just want to add 1 thing to this.

Maybe it makes me so mad because I don't EXPECT to win games because of some bullshit from the bullpen and I certainly don't EXPECT to lose games that way.
 
reNew Orleans said:
i think you got spoiled a bit haha. but yea, bullpens blow.

Tampa Bay
Cubs
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You could be right, spoiled a little bit.

Here is some rankings to help guide people.. Few teams caught me by surprise.


Major League Baseball Bullpen Statistics

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class=datacell>130</TD><TD class=datacell>57</TD><TD class=datacell>16</TD><TD class=datacell>69</TD><TD class=datacell>139</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>4</TD><TD class=datahl2>MIN </TD><TD class=datacell>3.19</TD><TD class=datacell>9-6</TD><TD class=datacell>12-2</TD><TD class=datacell>.231</TD><TD class=datacell>140</TD><TD class=datacell>59</TD><TD class=datacell>14</TD><TD class=datacell>71</TD><TD class=datacell>140</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>5</TD><TD class=datahl2>LA </TD><TD class=datacell>3.23</TD><TD class=datacell>9-3</TD><TD class=datacell>16-4</TD><TD class=datacell>.233</TD><TD class=datacell>149</TD><TD class=datacell>62</TD><TD class=datacell>9</TD><TD class=datacell>56</TD><TD class=datacell>173</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>6</TD><TD class=datahl2>TOR </TD><TD class=datacell>3.31</TD><TD class=datacell>8-9</TD><TD class=datacell>15-9</TD><TD class=datacell>.218</TD><TD class=datacell>134</TD><TD class=datacell>61</TD><TD class=datacell>15</TD><TD class=datacell>62</TD><TD class=datacell>143</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>7</TD><TD class=datahl2>SEA </TD><TD class=datacell>3.48</TD><TD class=datacell>6-3</TD><TD class=datacell>14-2</TD><TD class=datacell>.230</TD><TD class=datacell>141</TD><TD class=datacell>64</TD><TD class=datacell>9</TD><TD class=datacell>83</TD><TD class=datacell>114</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>8</TD><TD class=datahl2>STL </TD><TD class=datacell>3.51</TD><TD class=datacell>7-2</TD><TD class=datacell>13-2</TD><TD class=datacell>.225</TD><TD class=datacell>136</TD><TD class=datacell>63</TD><TD class=datacell>14</TD><TD class=datacell>53</TD><TD class=datacell>121</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>9</TD><TD class=datahl2>TEX </TD><TD class=datacell>3.55</TD><TD class=datacell>6-7</TD><TD class=datacell>10-4</TD><TD class=datacell>.238</TD><TD class=datacell>181</TD><TD class=datacell>80</TD><TD class=datacell>18</TD><TD class=datacell>95</TD><TD class=datacell>148</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>10</TD><TD class=datahl2>MIL </TD><TD class=datacell>3.82</TD><TD class=datacell>8-7</TD><TD class=datacell>21-4</TD><TD class=datacell>.240</TD><TD class=datacell>145</TD><TD class=datacell>68</TD><TD class=datacell>15</TD><TD class=datacell>61</TD><TD class=datacell>145</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>11</TD><TD class=datahl2>LAA </TD><TD class=datacell>3.87</TD><TD class=datacell>3-4</TD><TD class=datacell>21-3</TD><TD class=datacell>.225</TD><TD class=datacell>127</TD><TD class=datacell>66</TD><TD class=datacell>18</TD><TD class=datacell>61</TD><TD class=datacell>125</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>12</TD><TD class=datahl2>ATL </TD><TD class=datacell>3.87</TD><TD class=datacell>11-4</TD><TD class=datacell>18-5</TD><TD class=datacell>.248</TD><TD class=datacell>157</TD><TD class=datacell>73</TD><TD class=datacell>13</TD><TD class=datacell>86</TD><TD class=datacell>137</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>13</TD><TD class=datahl2>WAS </TD><TD class=datacell>3.92</TD><TD class=datacell>10-7</TD><TD class=datacell>12-10</TD><TD class=datacell>.263</TD><TD class=datacell>209</TD><TD class=datacell>90</TD><TD class=datacell>20</TD><TD class=datacell>84</TD><TD class=datacell>144</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>14</TD><TD class=datahl2>ARI </TD><TD class=datacell>3.94</TD><TD class=datacell>11-6</TD><TD class=datacell>23-5</TD><TD class=datacell>.243</TD><TD class=datacell>138</TD><TD class=datacell>66</TD><TD class=datacell>20</TD><TD class=datacell>62</TD><TD class=datacell>120</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>15</TD><TD class=datahl2>SF </TD><TD class=datacell>3.99</TD><TD class=datacell>4-9</TD><TD class=datacell>11-6</TD><TD class=datacell>.245</TD><TD class=datacell>125</TD><TD class=datacell>60</TD><TD class=datacell>12</TD><TD class=datacell>61</TD><TD class=datacell>105</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>16</TD><TD class=datahl2>OAK </TD><TD class=datacell>4.11</TD><TD class=datacell>8-11</TD><TD class=datacell>12-9</TD><TD class=datacell>.254</TD><TD class=datacell>140</TD><TD class=datacell>67</TD><TD class=datacell>11</TD><TD class=datacell>50</TD><TD class=datacell>104</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>17</TD><TD class=datahl2>FLA </TD><TD class=datacell>4.14</TD><TD class=datacell>8-12</TD><TD class=datacell>13-9</TD><TD class=datacell>.262</TD><TD class=datacell>196</TD><TD class=datacell>90</TD><TD class=datacell>13</TD><TD class=datacell>99</TD><TD class=datacell>163</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>18</TD><TD class=datahl2>CLE </TD><TD class=datacell>4.37</TD><TD class=datacell>10-7</TD><TD class=datacell>17-5</TD><TD class=datacell>.252</TD><TD class=datacell>153</TD><TD class=datacell>76</TD><TD class=datacell>14</TD><TD class=datacell>68</TD><TD class=datacell>143</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>19</TD><TD class=datahl2>CHC </TD><TD class=datacell>4.44</TD><TD class=datacell>4-14</TD><TD class=datacell>11-10</TD><TD class=datacell>.257</TD><TD class=datacell>149</TD><TD class=datacell>75</TD><TD class=datacell>14</TD><TD class=datacell>71</TD><TD class=datacell>140</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>20</TD><TD class=datahl2>BAL </TD><TD class=datacell>4.47</TD><TD class=datacell>8-10</TD><TD class=datacell>12-6</TD><TD class=datacell>.248</TD><TD class=datacell>161</TD><TD class=datacell>84</TD><TD class=datacell>12</TD><TD class=datacell>77</TD><TD class=datacell>142</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>21</TD><TD class=datahl2>NYY </TD><TD class=datacell>4.57</TD><TD class=datacell>6-10</TD><TD class=datacell>4-10</TD><TD class=datacell>.233</TD><TD class=datacell>159</TD><TD class=datacell>93</TD><TD class=datacell>18</TD><TD class=datacell>104</TD><TD class=datacell>120</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>22</TD><TD class=datahl2>HOU </TD><TD class=datacell>4.63</TD><TD class=datacell>7-6</TD><TD class=datacell>10-7</TD><TD class=datacell>.261</TD><TD class=datacell>163</TD><TD class=datacell>83</TD><TD class=datacell>20</TD><TD class=datacell>64</TD><TD class=datacell>160</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>23</TD><TD class=datahl2>PIT </TD><TD class=datacell>4.67</TD><TD class=datacell>9-8</TD><TD class=datacell>14-7</TD><TD class=datacell>.265</TD><TD class=datacell>183</TD><TD class=datacell>94</TD><TD class=datacell>25</TD><TD class=datacell>76</TD><TD class=datacell>133</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>24</TD><TD class=datahl2>KC </TD><TD class=datacell>4.77</TD><TD class=datacell>8-11</TD><TD class=datacell>15-9</TD><TD class=datacell>.274</TD><TD class=datacell>197</TD><TD class=datacell>98</TD><TD class=datacell>23</TD><TD class=datacell>86</TD><TD class=datacell>142</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>25</TD><TD class=datahl2>CIN </TD><TD class=datacell>4.80</TD><TD class=datacell>6-11</TD><TD class=datacell>11-6</TD><TD class=datacell>.259</TD><TD class=datacell>158</TD><TD class=datacell>86</TD><TD class=datacell>19</TD><TD class=datacell>68</TD><TD class=datacell>133</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>26</TD><TD class=datahl2>COL </TD><TD class=datacell>4.80</TD><TD class=datacell>11-10</TD><TD class=datacell>16-10</TD><TD class=datacell>.280</TD><TD class=datacell>172</TD><TD class=datacell>87</TD><TD class=datacell>11</TD><TD class=datacell>71</TD><TD class=datacell>106</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>27</TD><TD class=datahl2>PHI </TD><TD class=datacell>4.83</TD><TD class=datacell>6-8</TD><TD class=datacell>12-6</TD><TD class=datacell>.275</TD><TD class=datacell>165</TD><TD class=datacell>82</TD><TD class=datacell>20</TD><TD class=datacell>74</TD><TD class=datacell>128</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>28</TD><TD class=datahl2>TB </TD><TD class=datacell>5.30</TD><TD class=datacell>9-12</TD><TD class=datacell>13-6</TD><TD class=datacell>.287</TD><TD class=datacell>192</TD><TD class=datacell>99</TD><TD class=datacell>24</TD><TD class=datacell>77</TD><TD class=datacell>115</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>29</TD><TD class=datahl2>DET </TD><TD class=datacell>5.46</TD><TD class=datacell>9-12</TD><TD class=datacell>19-11</TD><TD class=datacell>.278</TD><TD class=datacell>184</TD><TD class=datacell>102</TD><TD class=datacell>16</TD><TD class=datacell>81</TD><TD class=datacell>120</TD></TR><TR><TD class=datahl2>30</TD><TD class=datahl2>CHW </TD><TD class=datacell>5.57</TD><TD class=datacell>9-9</TD><TD class=datacell>16-11</TD><TD class=datacell>.281</TD><TD class=datacell>149</TD><TD class=datacell>84</TD><TD class=datacell>11</TD><TD class=datacell>76</TD><TD class=datacell>119</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
Last 2 teams are the AL WS representitives the last 2 seasons. I guess the workload of making the big dance takes its toll pretty quickly the next couple of seasons.
 
I can't count the amount of times the Red's bullpen has given up huge leads in the 8th or 9th this season.
 
yeah i think a lot of cappers here felt the sting of the sox pen on saturday against the jays in that loss
 
BetCrimes1984 said:
Last 2 teams are the AL WS representitives the last 2 seasons. I guess the workload of making the big dance takes its toll pretty quickly the next couple of seasons.
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That's not true of the White Sox. They have an entire new bullpen outside of Bobby Jenks, and he hasn't been the problem. The starting pitching has done it's job in Chicago, it's been the lack of hitting, and the bullpen that continues to do them in.
 
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