Brian Kelly out @ LSU

I feel like these big step-ups in prestige have been working poorly, so maybe there‘s prejudice against GA Tech‘s coach
 
Gameover said:
Is it possible Lane just stays at ole miss ?
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I'll defer to our resident Ole Miss expert but Kiffin strikes me as the ultimate enigma. Winning and coaching are obviously big to him but there's a facet of him that absolutely loves being the underdog and especially positioned to troll and stick it to other more "elite" teams. He just seems to indulge in this aspect of things. Does it make or break a decision? No. But w/ the right amount of $ it may be an influence to stay.
 
Frank Costanza said:
On the subject, Scott Woodward's last two football hires - Brian Kelly and Jim Fisher - have resulted in $130MM in buyouts with zero playoff berths.

Credit David Hale.

And, yeah, I continue to refuse calling a grown man "Jimbo".
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And they probably slicked each other out on the back end no homo. You know the game.

Lane shoulda been LSU’s coach 2 coaches ago. It’s a very wild year. SEC has some hot names that could be had for cheaper also
 
I don't see any way Lane doesn't go to FLA unless he stays at Ole Miss for a reason

Why would LSU be a better job than Florida?
 
After last night you knew something was going to go down today. Apparently the meeting between Woodward and Kelly went sideways and this was the result.

The search is probably going to be a total shit show given Woodward’s habit of throwing money around, the donors who are footing the bill for all of this being very aware of that fact, and LSU currently having an interim president.
 
I’d like to see Kiffin show some loyalty and stay put but if he goes LSU is the better program.
 
I know these schools can always find the money but who is negotiating these coaching contracts where seemingly every guy has a 50 million dollar buyout clause to get rid of them.
 
The Governor will be removing Woodward soon as well. He will not be involved in the hire. Which also removes Sumrall cause that opens up another in state coaching job. Sumrall will likely end up in Auburn regardless. 4 years ago Lane was enraged he wasn’t even interviewed for the Florida or LSU jobs. Many at LSU thought they were above hiring Lane. Well they were wrong. Gonna be a wild 3 months.
 
Gameover said:
54 mill buyout

Candidates as per ESPN

Five candidates for the job​


Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin:

Tulane coach Jon Sumrall:

Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman:

Georgia Tech coach Brent Key:

Missouri coach Eliah Drinkwitz:

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Lane has to be the most sought after of that group by a longshot.

Florida will come calling also.

I would say Penn State too but they probably cannot handle a personality as big as Lane's.
 
twinkie13 said:
And they probably slicked each other out on the back end no homo. You know the game.

Lane shoulda been LSU’s coach 2 coaches ago. It’s a very wild year. SEC has some hot names that could be had for cheaper also
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Right after he was at FAU?
I think that was still not far enough removed from the 2013 tarmac firing by USC.

I really think he needed a tweener after FAU and before LSU or FLA etc.
 
Gameover said:
When was last time all these big jobs were open like this ??

Does PSU go after Kelly ?

Where does Franklin land?
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Well, we just had Mich and Bama two years ago who were in the final 4 in

But, that was different circumstances.

In season is another dimension.

This should be fun!

Where's @MrMulligan !? I'd love for him to log in for Florida thoughts!
 
majent said:
Right after he was at FAU?
I think that was still not far enough removed from the 2013 tarmac firing by USC.

I really think he needed a tweener after FAU and before LSU or FLA etc.
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I don't know this to be the case, but with the way Lane left Alabama, it wouldn't surprise me if Saban's opinion on the matter shrunk the number of jobs available to Kiffin
 
LSU's OC is out now too. TE coach Atkins will take over play calling. Don't love that Alabama will be the first game with the "new" staff. Never know what to expect in those situations as a lot of the film can be thrown out the window.
 
Don't please don't even try to steal Mario from Miami I don't think I could deal with that disappointment of losing him.
 
I imagine there will be some names that are interested in both the LSU and Florida jobs that would surprise folks
 
PNGFROM2003 said:
The Governor will be removing Woodward soon as well. He will not be involved in the hire. Which also removes Sumrall cause that opens up another in state coaching job. Sumrall will likely end up in Auburn regardless. 4 years ago Lane was enraged he wasn’t even interviewed for the Florida or LSU jobs. Many at LSU thought they were above hiring Lane. Well they were wrong. Gonna be a wild 3 months.
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Totally agree about Sumrall to Auburn. Much like Wisconsin and Florida State, that job almost certainly opens up - they're just deciding how many Ls the incumbent HC has to wear.
 
I happened to have caught this 1 hour feature on Kiffin on espn a few weeks ago.

Based on this alone, I think he really likes Oxford. If I had to move somewhere Oxford would be very high on my list too.

I'd be surprised if he took another job. Money is not everything particularly when you already have more than you will ever need. I could be wrong, of course.

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gps_3 said:
LSU's OC is out now too. TE coach Atkins will take over play calling. Don't love that Alabama will be the first game with the "new" staff. Never know what to expect in those situations as a lot of the film can be thrown out the window.
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That was more important than Kelly leaving
 
Brewers888 said:
Sumrall is a good coach but good luck trying to sell LSU fans on the coach of Tulane.
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It’s pretty surprising the folks around that are open to it. Now, I’m in NO not BR and other places in LA. Still, a very strange thing to say.
You’d have to think Lane is the target, but Woodward has pulled some shit off.
I can’t see him taking an up and comer, but what do I know?
 
bones said:
I happened to have caught this 1 hour feature on Kiffin on espn a few weeks ago.

Based on this alone, I think he really likes Oxford. If I had to move somewhere Oxford would be very high on my list too.

I'd be surprised if he took another job. Money is not everything particularly when you already have more than you will ever need. I could be wrong, of course.

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Believe me, Oxford destroys BR. That’s a real thing.

He’d be the 1st to maybe win at Ole Miss and stamp that
 
BiffTFinancial said:
Totally agree about Sumrall to Auburn. Much like Wisconsin and Florida State, that job almost certainly opens up - they're just deciding how many Ls the incumbent HC has to wear.
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I've heard that Freeze is getting another year at AU. You can't be happy with this market if you're hiring at AU, even though Hugh's buyout is one of the more feasible ones out there. If they are going to fire him, I have no idea what they are waiting for. I guess maybe if they lose to Vandy then have a bye week? I will say they have been pretty competitive in their losses, and some better QB play (which is 100% on Freeze) probably means they are closer to 9-3 this year than 6-6
 
gps_3 said:
I've heard that Freeze is getting another year at AU. You can't be happy with this market if you're hiring at AU, even though Hugh's buyout is one of the more feasible ones out there. If they are going to fire him, I have no idea what they are waiting for. I guess maybe if they lose to Vandy then have a bye week? I will say they have been pretty competitive in their losses, and some better QB play (which is 100% on Freeze) probably means they are closer to 9-3 this year than 6-6
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Yeah hard to be in that spot with all the available jobs and competition that will be out there this offseason. I'm not even sure if Lane moves on but then Ole Miss becomes Auburn's competition, not UF, LSU, FSU, PSU, Wisky, maybe even Clemson? You have to factor in who will be moving on up too if someone like Freeman bounces (which I highly doubt)
 
KJ said:
Yeah hard to be in that spot with all the available jobs and competition that will be out there this offseason. I'm not even sure if Lane moves on but then Ole Miss becomes Auburn's competition, not UF, LSU, FSU, PSU, Wisky, maybe even Clemson? You have to factor in who will be moving on up too if someone like Freeman bounces (which I highly doubt)
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We're definitely just at the tip of the iceberg. Once a hire is made, the chain reaction will lead to more job openings and that's not even including the NFL. I'm not worried that DeBoer is going anywhere, but it wouldn't surprise me to hear Grubb and Wommack's names at some of the smaller jobs that open
 
Brewers888 said:
Sumrall is a good coach but good luck trying to sell LSU fans on the coach of Tulane.
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The question about Sumrall would be less about Tulane and more about how much of it is him vs how much of it was inheriting from one of the best program builders out there.
 
gps_3 said:
I've heard that Freeze is getting another year at AU. You can't be happy with this market if you're hiring at AU, even though Hugh's buyout is one of the more feasible ones out there. If they are going to fire him, I have no idea what they are waiting for. I guess maybe if they lose to Vandy then have a bye week? I will say they have been pretty competitive in their losses, and some better QB play (which is 100% on Freeze) probably means they are closer to 9-3 this year than 6-6
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That's very interesting, I've more assumed that AU was just a matter of time but maybe it really isn't and the reason you mention is a really good one: who are there best options, esp with timing an issue for recruiting and knowing more attractive jobs will be on the market already.
 
LSU will hire the guy who has already won a ship at LSU.







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With these insane buyouts, there should be (and maybe there is?) a rule in place that if you go and get another job, that buyout disappears. How in the world can anyone justify paying someone upwards of 50 million dollars because they were fired, but then you still have to pay them when they go and get another job? What a big fucking scam. Go somewhere and sign a big contract with a big buyout, do a horrible job and maybe even intentionally so, and then get a huge payout while also able to go get another job and essentially get paid twice? GTFOH.
 
FSU24 said:
With these insane buyouts, there should be (and maybe there is?) a rule in place that if you go and get another job, that buyout disappears. How in the world can anyone justify paying someone upwards of 50 million dollars because they were fired, but then you still have to pay them when they go and get another job? What a big fucking scam. Go somewhere and sign a big contract with a big buyout, do a horrible job and maybe even intentionally so, and then get a huge payout while also able to go get another job and essentially get paid twice? GTFOH.
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Sure it sounds great in theory if you're the university to throw some non-compete clause in there but why would a big name coach remotely entertain that? It's a catch 22, the market dictates these terms, not either side.
 
A lot of contracts have a "Duty to Mitigate" clause in them, meaning the fired coach has a duty to try to find another job, and that salary will reduce the amount the school has to pay the fired coach. I think Franklin and Napier had those, but pretty sure Kelly's is guaranteed. Same for Mark Stoops at UK, and something like 75% of his total buyout is due in 30 days after being fired
 
M.O.T said:
After last night you knew something was going to go down today. Apparently the meeting between Woodward and Kelly went sideways and this was the result.

The search is probably going to be a total shit show given Woodward’s habit of throwing money around, the donors who are footing the bill for all of this being very aware of that fact, and LSU currently having an interim president.
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If they allow Woodward to be a part of hiring the new coach, they deserve what they get! He should be fired!
 
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