Bernard Hopkins vs Thunder Cloud and the rest of em

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In transit, arriving late.
March 8
At Atlantic City, N.J. (ESPN/ESPN Deportes): Victor Cayo vs. Emmanuel Taylor, 10 rounds, junior welterweights; Magomed Abdusalamov vs. Victor Bisbal, 10 rounds, heavyweights; John Jackson vs. Francisco Alexis Pena, 6 or 8 rounds, junior middleweights; Julius Jackson vs. Anthony Pietrantonio, 6 or 8 rounds, super middleweights; Samuel Rogers vs. Ivan Ziglar, 6 rounds, junior middleweights; Thomas LaManna vs. Joshua Snyder, 6 rounds, middleweights; Scott Burrel vs. Edgardo Torres, 4 rounds, lightweights; Michal Chudecki vs. TBA, 4 rounds, lightweights
At Indio, Calif. (Showtime): Hugo Centeno Jr. vs. Keandre Leatherwood, 10 rounds, junior middleweights; Braulio Santos vs. Kevin Hoskins, 8 rounds, junior lightweights; Jamie Kavanagh vs. Sal Garcia, 8 rounds, lightweights; Dominic Breazeale vs. Ronny Hale, 4 rounds, heavyweights; Gerald Washington vs. TBA, 6 rounds, heavyweights; Jorge Porras vs. Fernando Fuentes, 4 rounds, bantamweights; Manny Robles vs. Juan Sandoval, 4 rounds, heavyweights
At Mexico City (Telemundo): Johnny Garcia vs. Oscar Ibarra, 12 rounds, junior bantamweights; Edgar Ortega vs. TBA, 6 rounds, junior welterweights; Angel Molina vs. Angel Navarrete, 6 rounds, lightweights; Jesus Garcia vs. Salvador Juarez, 6 rounds, junior bantamweights; Luis Miguel Montano vs. TBA, 6 rounds, junior lightweights; Uriel Lopez vs. TBA, 4 rounds, flyweights
At Lowell, Mass.: Joe McCreedy vs. TBA, 10 rounds, light heavyweights; Osumanu Adama vs. Grady Brewer, 10 rounds, middleweights; Vivian Harris vs. Shakha Moore, 8 rounds, welterweights; Chris Traietti vs. Tyler Seever, 8 rounds, light heavyweights; Eddie Caminero vs. Robert Stockwell, 8 rounds, junior middleweights; Alex Santos vs. TBA, 8 rounds, heavyweights; Agustine Mauras vs. TBA, 8 rounds, lightweights; Boban Simic vs. TBA, 4 rounds, heavyweights; Bernie Ongewe vs. Joshua Rivera, 4 rounds, middleweights; Mike Martin vs. Josh Crespo, 4 rounds, bantamweights
At Moscow: Matias Gomez vs. Andrey Klimov, 12 rounds, lightweights
At Accra, Ghana: Joseph Agbeko vs. Luis Melendez, 12 rounds, bantamweights
March 9
At New York (HBO): Tavoris Cloud vs. Bernard Hopkins, 12 rounds, for Cloud's IBF light heavyweight title; Keith Thurman vs. Jan Zaveck, 12 rounds, WBO welterweight eliminator; Frank Galarza vs. Guillermo Ibarra, 6 rounds, junior middleweights; Mike Perez vs. Lonnie Smith, 10 rounds, lightweights; Eddie Gomez vs. Javier Gomez, 8 rounds, junior middleweights; Marcus Browne vs. Josh Thorpe, 4 rounds, light heavyweights; Juan Dominguez vs. TBA, 8 rounds, bantamweights; Steve Bujaj vs. Zeferino Albino, 4 rounds, cruiserweights; Claude Statten vs. Mike Hill, 4 rounds, bantamweights
At Costa Mesa, Calif. (HBO Latino): Juan Carlos Salgado vs. Argenis Mendez, rematch, 12 rounds, for Salgado's IBF junior lightweight title; Javier Molina vs. Joseph Elegele, 8 rounds, welterweights; Cornelius White vs. Otis Griffin, 10 rounds, light heavyweights; Oscar Molina vs. Jalani Wilson, 4 rounds, welterweights; Juan Funez vs. Jose Garcia, 4 rounds, featherweights; Brandon Bennett vs. TBA, 6 rounds, junior welterweights; Immanuwel Aleem vs. TBA, 4 rounds, super middleweights; Moshea Aleem vs. Dante Spinks, 4 rounds, junior middleweights
At Cerete, Colombia: Luis De La Rosa vs. Merlito Sabillo, 12 rounds, for vacant WBO interim strawweight title; William Urina vs. Jesus Martinez, 12 rounds, bantmaweights; Darley Perez vs. TBA, 8 rounds, lightweights; Lely Luz Flores vs. TBA, 6 rounds, lightweights; Francia Bravo vs. TBA, 6 rounds, junior featherweights; Jorle Estrada vs. Alfonso De La Hoz, 6 or 8 rounds, strawweights; Jose San Martin vs. Jonathan Burgos, 6 rounds, junior featherweights; Leonard Carrillo vs. Neicer Lozano, 4 rounds, middleweights; Deivi Julio Bassa vs. Luis Diaz, 4 rounds, featherweights
At Guadalajara, Mexico (UniMas): Edgar Sosa vs. Ulises "Archie" Solis, third fight, 12 rounds, WBC flyweight eliminator; Alejandro Gonzalez Jr. vs. Jonathan Lecona, 10 rounds, bantamweights
At Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic: Michael Oliveira vs. Orlando Estrada, 12 rounds, junior middleweights; Marcus Oliveira vs. Junior Ramos, 10 rounds, light heavyweights; Julio De Jesus vs. Walter Estrada, 10 rounds, lightweights
At Hamburg, Germany: Marie Riederer vs. TBA, 10 rounds, female junior welterweights; Nikki Adler vs. TBA, 10 rounds, female super middleweights; Alexander Dimitrenko vs. TBA, 8 rounds, heavyweights
At London: Darren Barker vs. Simone Rotolo, 12 rounds, middleweights; Lee Purdy vs. Cosme Rivera, 12 rounds, welterweights; George Groves vs. Dario German Balmaceda, 10 rounds, super middleweights; Wadi Camacho vs. China Clark, 10 rounds, cruiserweights; Ryan Taylor vs. Liam Shinkwin, 10 rounds, lightweights; Danny Connor vs. Chris Evangelou, rematch, 10 rounds, junior welterweights
At London: Menay Edwards vs. Shane McPhilbin, 10 rounds, cruiserweights; Michael Devine vs. Dan Naylor, 10 rounds, junior lightweights; Lee Markham vs. Jamie Boness, 6 rounds, middleweights; Michael Lomax vs. Arvydas Trizno, 6 rounds, welterweights; Joe Mullender vs. Jevgenijs Andrejevs, 6 rounds, middleweights; Miley Cash vs. Joe Rea, 4 round, super middleweights
At Herstal, Belgium: Stephane Jamoye vs. Ashley Sexton, 12 rounds, for Jamoye's European bantamweight title
At Civitavecchia, Italy: Luca Giacon vs. Emiliano Marsili, 12 rounds, for vacant European lightweight title
 
Red means fights Id watch or are interested in the fighter for skill or future bets. Will post the odds
 
Not many lines out yet, but I would take a serious look at B-Hop as a dog here. Cloud is a fun fighter and I like his style but he gets hit WAY too much to like here. As bad a "Bad" Chad Dawson was stylistically for Hopkins, this guy is made to order. Cloud rips his shirt off and he looks like a beast of a LHW.....look to his lat fight though.

Cloud does have power, yes. It is however overrated. His punches can be extremely wild at times and he gasses. Bad. He took this camp to Big Bear CA, wear many a fighter go(we all assume to work on his stamina, etc). Anyone who watches the sport knows he got a gift of all gifts against Campillo about a year ago.

He dropped Camp 2 times in the first rd and then proceeded to get a boxing lesson for the rest of the fight and escaped with a SD. His most noteable win is vs Glenn Johnson, and Glenn gave him fits despite the cards.

B-Hop is old yes. The first fight with Dawson was a mistake as was the second. The WORST style match for Hop....a jabbing calculated monster. Now think Jean Pascal....this is JP part 3. Tailor made for Hop. A wild swinging guy with 24 fights and ZERO defense.

The only way I see Hop losing is due to a DQ or he all of the sudden gets 48 years old in this fight(very possible...fighters sometimes just age in a fight and crumble....Hop is different tho...obviously)

One can get Hop at +135 right now....I expect it to go down more, as I think he opened as more of a dog initially

I want to see a weigh in etc,,,,altho both guys come in usually in shape

Be lookin at the rest when it comes out
 
B-Hop +145.../ 2 units

I will keep goin to the well tll she runs dry. As bad as a matchup Dawson was for Nard, Cloud is as right. Worry cards for sure, but unless X turns 48 overnight, this type of power puncher is who X deals on. If he loses, retire time.
 
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Cloud weighed in at 173 for the fight....career low

Conditioning has always been a question and he seems drawn somewhat
 
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boom bitch

dude is unreal....he takes a fighter completely out of what they do and just kills em

Just like suspected as bad as Dawson was for X.........Cloud was tailor
 
Salgado got murked...never seen a dude just eat head turning leather like he does

Sosa cracked Archie....I guess Canelo stilll left his mark haha
 
I laid off the Hopkins bet. I knew to bet it, and talked myself out of it. Feeling pretty stupid this morning.

I did hit Mendez, though, so I've got that going for me, lol.
 
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