Ladies and Gentlemen of CTG,
We are back!
Time for the first installment of the highly acclaimed weekly Big Ten Conference Discussion Thread!
For years, @HUNT and I have authored this thread to discuss anything and everything in this growing conference. All insights are encouraged, and the great thing about this thread is finding tidbits from our locals around the conference. Great discussion is encouraged! We like trash talk as well.
My apologies for the late start to this thread. I almost started this 3 weeks ago, but I thought that was too early. Wrong. I should have started the discussion back in May fergodsakes. Anyways, let's get going on what should be a fascinating season in the Big Ten.
I want to remind everyone that this conference has very unbalanced schedules due to the lack of divisions and the permanent rivalry games. Use that to your advantage when capping conference winners, RSW's and anything else.
Week #1 thread, I am just going to jot some notes and thoughts...
Thursday night provides an opportunity to see 4 teams in action...
Ohio @ Rutgers -15.5 and 49.5
Cincinnati vs Nebraska -6.5 and 53.5
Buffalo @ Minnesota -18 and 44
Miami OH @ Wisconsin -17 and 39.5
For myself, I am interested to see how the Rutgers defense improves with a new coordinator. On offense, they should have some continuity with QB1 back again. This squad faces a pretty tough schedule this year -- need to start strong! We'll lean on @Marsski for Bobcat thoughts.
Nebraska is a team I think should improve as well. Baby steps each year under Rhule. Raiola should blossom after gaining valuable true freshman game experience. The next step for this program is a big win vs a top team. Michigan and USC at home potentially could qualify. A late-season trip to Happy Valley would be the ultimate stepping stone. Before any of that, though, a test on the road to start the season. No cupcake here. My big note here is that the Huskers OL is top 10 in the nation in returning starts. This is the perfect game to run a lot and control the clock. Make Cincy play from behind. They lost 4 of their top 5 receivers from last year. Thoughts on the season and the team @cubsker ?
Buffalo certainly will have experience under center, lol. I had to look this up, but he is 25!! Henderson is back at RB after 1200+ last year. Again, I'd like to hear from @Marsski and @DOUBLEUP4LIFE on the Bulls. My previews show a very good DL, but does that hold up vs a P4 team? Minnesota is breaking in some new OL and that can be a mixed bag early. My first inclination here is a low-scoring game, especially the 1st half.
Wisconsin and Miami of Ohio feel like a 'watching the paint dry' kind of game. The Badgers identity has always been running the ball. Last season was quite the disappointment as they ran for their least amount of yards this century. The offense sucked as a whole. Billy Edwards has been in CFB for around 12 years now. I have always liked him at Maryland, and he was the key to a cover/non-cover in relief at Maryland. Tough kid who will fight for yards on the run and doesn't give up at any time. Luke has a bit of a target on his back if this team doesn't show some improvements this year. Simply a game I watch here unless an opportune under comes into on the live market.
Friday Night...
Western Michigan @ Michigan State -20.5 and 49.5
I will be brutally honest here -- there isn't a lot to be excited about right now in East Lansing. Now, the coach is solid. The problem is, he isn't going to win a lot of recruiting battles in the Midwest, and their NIL game isn't that great right now. I had heard from a credible source that they had a money guy, but that doesn't seem to be the case -- as of now. I do think Chiles improves a bit more this year. They had to corral him a bit later in the season as the turnovers were simply too big of an issue. Marsh is OUTSTANDING and will be a first-round pick. Big credit to him for not leaving. Most guys would. I really appreciate that he loves where he goes to school. The running backs are not good at all. Each line is average at best. I dunno, this is a 4-6 win team.
I do like this Friday night tradition on Labor Day weekend. Hopefully a good crowd, and we'll see if Aiden and Marsh can form a consistently explosive duo. That is on Chiles. Their chemistry was nice last year.
Western made a bowl last year but stumbled home. A lot of turnover via the portal as well. That's the new normal, unfortunately. Last year's defense gave up over 30 points 7 times. That needs to improve. The offense will need to run the ball as they figure out the QB position. This should be interesting, and a return to a bowl seems dicey!
Good game here for MSU to find their running back(s) and get Chiles into rhythm. I'll say, if they struggle on offense here then watch out!
Saturday Games....
Ball State @ Purdue -17.5 and 50.5
Nevada @ Penn State -44 and 56.5
Old Dominion @ Indiana -23.5 and 54.5
New Mexico @ Michigan -34.5 and 49.5
Florida Atlantic @ Maryland -14.5 and 59
Texas @ Ohio State -2.5 and 47.5
Colorado State @ Washington -22.5 and 54
UCLA vs Utah -6 and 51.5
Northwestern @ Tulane -5.5 and 46
Mizzou St @ USC -35 and 59.5
Alright, I am going to throw in some quick hitters here, as this conference is now a giant!
We have a standalone thread on OSU and Texas you can find HERE .
Check post #15 here for Purdue thoughts!!
I also hope we see @PaintCrew around for some Boilers thoughts! I know life is busy, but we will await his valued opinions.
I'll also defer to one @Timh for any and all Maryland Terrapins thoughts. Always check his thread for good articles, thoughts, and ANY total he posts!
Penn State is the team that has the easiest path to a playoff this year. Their locked opponents each year are a big advantage in ensuring playoff bids. That is how things are right now in this conference. They are not the only school that has a slight advantage. This season, they are an excellent team that will deserve a bid anyway. Veteran QB, nice running game, and an excellent defense. What holds them back? The coach and perhaps the QB in a big game setting. Franklin has been known for years for grabbing late covers for the betting fans during home games, but I feel like that happened less in 2024? Maybe it's just me. Anyways, this is the type of game that you might need the ole cover play. They'll roll from start to finish, but that's a hefty tariff to cover. A situational TT is around the only thing I would stalk here.
Talk to me about TULANE !! @twinkie13 . We need ya bud.
I see USC as an improved team this year. The DC addition could be what they really need to become competitive again on the national scene. Shall see. Mo State should be a nice warm-up for them. I feel like we have a graduate or two of Mo state!?
I'm interested to see what sort of bounce-back season Washington has. They lost a coach and a lot of vets after a championship game run last season. Demond has a lot of talent. I'd assume he has ups and downs early on as he takes on the position full-time. We have a great Huskies fan here in @jimmymo, and that's a thread you look to for plays and Huskies thoughts. Never discount a "bomb" play.
UCLA and Utah should be a fun game! I was very impressed last year with how hard the Bruins played for Coach Foster. I was a skeptic after fall camp about how he would lead this team. No more! That being said, he needs talent, and that takes some time. Well, one piece of pricey talent is in place. Nico! I feel like Nico leveled off quickly last season and never improved. I saw enough in the bowl game his freshman year to think he would become a damn good QB, but that also takes hard work. Maybe the change of scenery helps? New staff? We'll see. On the flip side, one of my favorite QBs last year is now playing on a higher level. We'll see quickly if Dampier can handle playing consistently against better competition.
This is a top 5 game for me to watch this weekend for a multitude of reasons -- and I likely won't be betting it at all.
I know you all skim-read this looking for UM thoughts -- soon enough -- I'll give my own quick preview a few posts down from here...
For now, let's start DISCUSSING!
We are back!
Time for the first installment of the highly acclaimed weekly Big Ten Conference Discussion Thread!
For years, @HUNT and I have authored this thread to discuss anything and everything in this growing conference. All insights are encouraged, and the great thing about this thread is finding tidbits from our locals around the conference. Great discussion is encouraged! We like trash talk as well.
My apologies for the late start to this thread. I almost started this 3 weeks ago, but I thought that was too early. Wrong. I should have started the discussion back in May fergodsakes. Anyways, let's get going on what should be a fascinating season in the Big Ten.
I want to remind everyone that this conference has very unbalanced schedules due to the lack of divisions and the permanent rivalry games. Use that to your advantage when capping conference winners, RSW's and anything else.
Week #1 thread, I am just going to jot some notes and thoughts...
Thursday night provides an opportunity to see 4 teams in action...
Ohio @ Rutgers -15.5 and 49.5
Cincinnati vs Nebraska -6.5 and 53.5
Buffalo @ Minnesota -18 and 44
Miami OH @ Wisconsin -17 and 39.5
For myself, I am interested to see how the Rutgers defense improves with a new coordinator. On offense, they should have some continuity with QB1 back again. This squad faces a pretty tough schedule this year -- need to start strong! We'll lean on @Marsski for Bobcat thoughts.
Nebraska is a team I think should improve as well. Baby steps each year under Rhule. Raiola should blossom after gaining valuable true freshman game experience. The next step for this program is a big win vs a top team. Michigan and USC at home potentially could qualify. A late-season trip to Happy Valley would be the ultimate stepping stone. Before any of that, though, a test on the road to start the season. No cupcake here. My big note here is that the Huskers OL is top 10 in the nation in returning starts. This is the perfect game to run a lot and control the clock. Make Cincy play from behind. They lost 4 of their top 5 receivers from last year. Thoughts on the season and the team @cubsker ?
Buffalo certainly will have experience under center, lol. I had to look this up, but he is 25!! Henderson is back at RB after 1200+ last year. Again, I'd like to hear from @Marsski and @DOUBLEUP4LIFE on the Bulls. My previews show a very good DL, but does that hold up vs a P4 team? Minnesota is breaking in some new OL and that can be a mixed bag early. My first inclination here is a low-scoring game, especially the 1st half.
Wisconsin and Miami of Ohio feel like a 'watching the paint dry' kind of game. The Badgers identity has always been running the ball. Last season was quite the disappointment as they ran for their least amount of yards this century. The offense sucked as a whole. Billy Edwards has been in CFB for around 12 years now. I have always liked him at Maryland, and he was the key to a cover/non-cover in relief at Maryland. Tough kid who will fight for yards on the run and doesn't give up at any time. Luke has a bit of a target on his back if this team doesn't show some improvements this year. Simply a game I watch here unless an opportune under comes into on the live market.
Friday Night...
Western Michigan @ Michigan State -20.5 and 49.5
I will be brutally honest here -- there isn't a lot to be excited about right now in East Lansing. Now, the coach is solid. The problem is, he isn't going to win a lot of recruiting battles in the Midwest, and their NIL game isn't that great right now. I had heard from a credible source that they had a money guy, but that doesn't seem to be the case -- as of now. I do think Chiles improves a bit more this year. They had to corral him a bit later in the season as the turnovers were simply too big of an issue. Marsh is OUTSTANDING and will be a first-round pick. Big credit to him for not leaving. Most guys would. I really appreciate that he loves where he goes to school. The running backs are not good at all. Each line is average at best. I dunno, this is a 4-6 win team.
I do like this Friday night tradition on Labor Day weekend. Hopefully a good crowd, and we'll see if Aiden and Marsh can form a consistently explosive duo. That is on Chiles. Their chemistry was nice last year.
Western made a bowl last year but stumbled home. A lot of turnover via the portal as well. That's the new normal, unfortunately. Last year's defense gave up over 30 points 7 times. That needs to improve. The offense will need to run the ball as they figure out the QB position. This should be interesting, and a return to a bowl seems dicey!
Good game here for MSU to find their running back(s) and get Chiles into rhythm. I'll say, if they struggle on offense here then watch out!
Saturday Games....
Ball State @ Purdue -17.5 and 50.5
Nevada @ Penn State -44 and 56.5
Old Dominion @ Indiana -23.5 and 54.5
New Mexico @ Michigan -34.5 and 49.5
Florida Atlantic @ Maryland -14.5 and 59
Texas @ Ohio State -2.5 and 47.5
Colorado State @ Washington -22.5 and 54
UCLA vs Utah -6 and 51.5
Northwestern @ Tulane -5.5 and 46
Mizzou St @ USC -35 and 59.5
Alright, I am going to throw in some quick hitters here, as this conference is now a giant!
We have a standalone thread on OSU and Texas you can find HERE .
Check post #15 here for Purdue thoughts!!
I also hope we see @PaintCrew around for some Boilers thoughts! I know life is busy, but we will await his valued opinions.
I'll also defer to one @Timh for any and all Maryland Terrapins thoughts. Always check his thread for good articles, thoughts, and ANY total he posts!
Penn State is the team that has the easiest path to a playoff this year. Their locked opponents each year are a big advantage in ensuring playoff bids. That is how things are right now in this conference. They are not the only school that has a slight advantage. This season, they are an excellent team that will deserve a bid anyway. Veteran QB, nice running game, and an excellent defense. What holds them back? The coach and perhaps the QB in a big game setting. Franklin has been known for years for grabbing late covers for the betting fans during home games, but I feel like that happened less in 2024? Maybe it's just me. Anyways, this is the type of game that you might need the ole cover play. They'll roll from start to finish, but that's a hefty tariff to cover. A situational TT is around the only thing I would stalk here.
Talk to me about TULANE !! @twinkie13 . We need ya bud.
I see USC as an improved team this year. The DC addition could be what they really need to become competitive again on the national scene. Shall see. Mo State should be a nice warm-up for them. I feel like we have a graduate or two of Mo state!?
I'm interested to see what sort of bounce-back season Washington has. They lost a coach and a lot of vets after a championship game run last season. Demond has a lot of talent. I'd assume he has ups and downs early on as he takes on the position full-time. We have a great Huskies fan here in @jimmymo, and that's a thread you look to for plays and Huskies thoughts. Never discount a "bomb" play.
UCLA and Utah should be a fun game! I was very impressed last year with how hard the Bruins played for Coach Foster. I was a skeptic after fall camp about how he would lead this team. No more! That being said, he needs talent, and that takes some time. Well, one piece of pricey talent is in place. Nico! I feel like Nico leveled off quickly last season and never improved. I saw enough in the bowl game his freshman year to think he would become a damn good QB, but that also takes hard work. Maybe the change of scenery helps? New staff? We'll see. On the flip side, one of my favorite QBs last year is now playing on a higher level. We'll see quickly if Dampier can handle playing consistently against better competition.
This is a top 5 game for me to watch this weekend for a multitude of reasons -- and I likely won't be betting it at all.
I know you all skim-read this looking for UM thoughts -- soon enough -- I'll give my own quick preview a few posts down from here...
For now, let's start DISCUSSING!
