Anyone want to talk SEC?

gps_3

Head of Alabama Department of Decision-Making
Been a busy offseason for me as I have a new baby and a new business, so capping has taken a backseat, as will playing a bunch of games this season. Will likely just wager in spots, and doubt I will have a dedicated weekly thread like the last few seasons. Not sure they were all that helpful anyway.

I have some thoughts on a few teams in the SEC, but haven't really had time to read much that isn't Alabama related. What's everyone thinking?

My Alabama thoughts (this might be as homerific as Silky's FSU preview):

QB: the assumption is that Jake Coker is going to come right in and seize the reins of the team and embark on a record-breaking campaign. As Mr Corso says, not so fast. If you looked at it realistically, Coker struggling is to be expected. He's still learning the coaches, his teammates, the practice routine, the schedule and the school itself. Not to mention the playbook. Blake Sims has made this battle a lot more competitive than most would have thought. I expect that by mid-season, Coker is the starter. All we know with him is that he is as physically gifted as any QB in the country. Whether or not he has it between the ears, especially once the lights come on, remains to be seen. My guess is that they split snaps close to 50/50 against WVU, then whoever is trending will get slightly more snaps moving forward until game 4 against UF, in which I predict there will be a clear starter. And like I said, I expect it to be Coker

OL: OL play is what's going to determine our season IMO. We know what we have in Arie Kouandjio (LG), Ryan Kelly (C), and Austin Sheppard (RT): solid SEC players, but yet to show anything approaching all-SEC. In the other two spots, we have a true freshman at LT (Cam Robinson) which is terrifying, and the battle for RG is ongoing, mainly due to injury to the 2 leading candidates. The ability of this group to gel and become a physical presence will ease the growing pains and ease the job of whomever ends up taking the snaps

RB: Best group in the country? Possibly. Listening to our fans, you'd think TJ Yeldon sucks. If he stays healthy, he'll likely leave Tuscaloosa as the all-time leading rusher. People are understandably excited about Derrick Henry. He's a freak athlete. Since he's not expected to be the #1 guy, he has the luxury to learn and work hard with less pressure. He appears to have the right attitude and work ethic, and I think he'll be a special player. The third back, and one that will become a household name is Kenyan Drake. He has largely spent his time at Alabama in Saban's doghouse, which has limited his chances to play. After a run-in with the police this spring, it appears he finally gets it, and has kept a low profile since. He has been the statistical star of our two fall scrimmages, and he brings a different element to our offense than Yeldon and Henry. It sounds like Kiffin is going to call plays that get him the ball in space, much like Reggie Bush at USC. Drake's not Bush, but he is very talented.

WR/TE: Another strong group. Amari Cooper is one of the top WR in the country, if not the top. The reports from this offseason have been great to hear on Amari: lots of time with the QBs and playbook, working out before the team workouts, etc. The kid wants to be the first WR taken in the NFL Draft. Behind him are some solid WR in Christion Jones, DeAndrew White, and Chris Black. A name I expect to surface this season is Robert Foster. He's the next star. At TE, Oj Howard is a beast. Fits into the new mold of pass catching TE. But in Saban's offense, the TE has to be a physical blocker. That's why you often see two TE sets, with the interior TE more of a OT than pass catcher. We haven't filled that role since Michael Williams left after the 2012 season. We have some bodies there, but I haven't seen anything to get excited about yet. Converted DL Dakota Ball has been practicing there this fall with some success, so maybe he will work out. I'm not holding my breath on Brian Vogler or Brandon Greene

DL: Like the OL, the projected starters haven't been able to practice much together due to injury and/or suspension, which is concerning and could delay their development. I think A'Shawn Robinson and Jonathan Allen are studs. We still don't have a dominant NT, but Brandon Ivory is serviceable (though he was one of the suspensions and may not start right away). We have as good of depth as we've had on the DL in the Saban era, but much of it is inexperienced, if not talented. Dashawn Hand, DJ Pettway, and Jarran Reed should all factor heavily in the rotation. I'm excited for this group to be the best DL we've had in a few years, but won't believe it until I see it on the field

LB: Always going to be strong here. We will miss CJ Mosley for sure, but Trey DePriest brings experience and leadership to the middle. Another unit with tons of talent, but short on experience. Dillon Lee looks to be the breakout performer here. There have been a lot of positive reports of Rashaan Evans being a special player

DB: This is the group that ultimately cost us a chance at the national championship. Part of was injury and part of it was inexperience. Cyrus Jones was in over his head last year as a first year starter and converted WR. Losing Sunseri hurt us against Auburn, and losing HCD hurt us against OU. The good news is, there has been an influx of talent with Tony Brown and Marlon Humphrey coming in. Two true CBs. Brown was in for the spring, and I expect him to be a starter at some point this season. We have much better depth this season at CB, so I don't expect it to be as weak as last year. We are a little thin at safety, but Landon Collins is awesome. The other safety spots will be manned by seniors Jarrick Williams and Nick Perry. Neither are game changers, but being seniors, they should be in the right spot more times than not. Geno Smith will get a lot of playing time in nickel and dime packages.

ST: Actually the group I'm most excited about based on fall camp reports. We all know what an abortion our kicking game was last season. It was actually ok until the disaster in November. And things didn't look promising at the spring game either. But, Adam Griffith has been great in the fall. It has been said that Saban and staff have ruined some PKs by changing their mechanics to kick it higher and faster, and it really messed with Griffith's head, but that he went home this summer and worked with his former kicking coach, and he's gotten his confidence back. We will have a true freshman punter, and he's replacing a great P from last year. In the last scrimmage, he had a punt that went 65 yards in the air. Kid can boom it. Hopefully he still can when there's a bunch of angry men running at him. Coverage units should be fine with all those talented young guys wanting to make a name for themselves

Overall: One of the most talented 1-85s in the country. If the OL can protect, whomever is the QB will have a great shot of a fantastic season because of all the playmaking talent. I'm interested to see, and a little nervous, about how Lane Kiffin will do on our staff. It seems it can only be really good or spectacularly bad. I'm thinking that Saban is such a control freak that if things go sour, LK will be relieved of some responsibilities before things spiral out of control, but hopefully it won't be an issue. The defense has the ability to get back to the 2009-2012 level we have been accustomed to. Am confident (praying) that ST will not lose a game for us. The schedule sets up well with the two byes splitting the season into 3 4 game segments, and the byes coming before our two biggest road tests (Ole Miss and LSU). Further, the QB battle likely gets decided during games against WVU, FAU, and S. Miss, which should be low-stress games and confidence builders. Schedule also doesn't look too daunting in terms of overall difficulty, but who knows how tough teams like UF, Ole Miss, Miss St, aTm, and even Tennessee will end up being. I love what I'm hearing Saban saying in his pressers about the attitude and work ethic of this team. I think they may have some of the drive that was missing in large parts from last season, which could make up for some of the loss of talent and experience

Prediction: 11-1, winning the SEC West. I would think they'd be favored over the SEC East team, and an SEC title gets them into the playoff. I think 12-0 is a possibility with some good luck and few injuries, but I can't predict undefeated because it doesn't happen very often. Also think this team could slip to 9-3 or 8-4 if the QB thing turns out to be a disaster

Sorry for the length and the homerism. But I do think we're gonna be pretty good.
 
Separate post for those who don't want to read my Bama porn

Twink, what's going on in Baton Rouge? I hear Fournette is the real deal. Y'all picked a QB?

Love to hear other SEC thoughts. Particularly on the East teams as I know next to nothing about them. Also want to hear some thoughts on Auburn. I'm not sure my natural prejudices allow me to cap them clearly.

Also, while this QB battle is going on at Alabama, I think we'll see more of the full playbook in 2H since the coaches are trying to decide on a leader. If they get up big, maybe not as much running in the 2H so some overs more in play
 
thanks for the write up. you really think they won't name a starter till week 4? gotta figure lane and company figure it out before that. stick with their guy, stand behind him, etc. think bama is gonna be great as well, but that OL is my biggest concern. let's take a team like ole miss for example--if ole miss can use their strength at DL to slow down bama's rushing game, and the qbs are forced to throw into that 4-2-5, what happens? is coker the man to challenge that secondary? that would make me nervouse. but i think the DL and scheme of bama will destroy ole miss's OL, so that part of the game won't be a concern. but can they do that against OBC in the sec championship game? who knows, but i sure as hell don't think it'll be easy.
 
good shit here fellas.

I'm not high on Auburn either, but I couldn't have been more wrong about the last game of last season (one rumor i heard was that a former FSU assistant who was coaching for Auburn was able to steal plays, as the Seminole staff brazenly decided they didn't need to change anything before the game. this led to auburn basically doing everything right for a majority of the game, particularly on defense).

I think the SEC West will kick the shit out of each other. Everyone loses at least once and would not be shocked to see two or three schools tied at the top of the division with (gasp) two losses...
 
didn't see any homerism in that at all. Only thing i would disagree with is that i think Coker will be the man from the word go.
 
thanks for the write up. you really think they won't name a starter till week 4? gotta figure lane and company figure it out before that. stick with their guy, stand behind him, etc. think bama is gonna be great as well, but that OL is my biggest concern. let's take a team like ole miss for example--if ole miss can use their strength at DL to slow down bama's rushing game, and the qbs are forced to throw into that 4-2-5, what happens? is coker the man to challenge that secondary? that would make me nervouse. but i think the DL and scheme of bama will destroy ole miss's OL, so that part of the game won't be a concern. but can they do that against OBC in the sec championship game? who knows, but i sure as hell don't think it'll be easy.

I think it's possible, maybe even likely, that Saban has "decided" that Coker is the guy. However, he has to manage this in such a way that doesn't send the message that you can just transfer in and be named the starter. Not sure the guys who put in the work for 4 years then someone just comes in and takes their job sends the message Saban wants. So Coker will have to "win" the job on the field so that it is unquestioned by the entire team. I also think Sims has made this more difficult than anyone would have predicted. From reports, Sims is more comfortable right now, and understandably so. But if we have any fantasies about winning it all, Coker has to be the guy
 
Separate post for those who don't want to read my Bama porn

Twink, what's going on in Baton Rouge? I hear Fournette is the real deal. Y'all picked a QB?

Love to hear other SEC thoughts. Particularly on the East teams as I know next to nothing about them. Also want to hear some thoughts on Auburn. I'm not sure my natural prejudices allow me to cap them clearly.

Also, while this QB battle is going on at Alabama, I think we'll see more of the full playbook in 2H since the coaches are trying to decide on a leader. If they get up big, maybe not as much running in the 2H so some overs more in play
boycotting until you commit to a weekly GPS3 SEC thread:mooned:
 
boycotting until you commit to a weekly GPS3 SEC thread:mooned:

I can start a weekly thread, but unfortunately I haven't put in the work, and doubt I'll have time to this season, to offer much in the way of actionable info outside of Alabama and maybe some of our opponents leading up to those games
 
Saban has stated that Sims has the locker room and that Coker has yet to step up as a leader in the huddle. I think he was talking to Coker in that presser, and hopefully that convinced Coker to get to know the guys in the locker room better and start bringing it in the huddle.
 
Thanks for the home team thoughts gps, really appreciate them. Grats on the young one. Any contributions throughout the season are always appreciated.
 
I can start a weekly thread, but unfortunately I haven't put in the work, and doubt I'll have time to this season, to offer much in the way of actionable info outside of Alabama and maybe some of our opponents leading up to those games
Ill get some minor info for you, just kidding

MOT hopefully can help as well

GL and grats on the fam
 
We saw alot of high scoring SEC games last year, do you guys think we continue to see that or not? Isn't the QB position a huge question mark for almost all of these teams this year?
 
they'll be a drop off just with JFF, mett, murray, and shaw leaving. but there's a bunch of teams that either have qbs that i think are pretty solid (usc, bama, mizzou, fla), or have schemes to where qb accuracy ain't the end all be all (auburn). lsu is probably the biggest question mark for me, but i'm a harris fan-boy at heart. think he could do some damage out there. jennings might be les's dude though.

also think that defenses are gonna be more aware of the spread attack that some of these teams are running now. they've had a couple years to recruit faster, longer defenders.
 
When people are talking about bo Wallace as one of the better qb's in the sec, you know the league is really down at the position.
 
they'll be a drop off just with JFF, mett, murray, and shaw leaving. but there's a bunch of teams that either have qbs that i think are pretty solid (usc, bama, mizzou, fla), or have schemes to where qb accuracy ain't the end all be all (auburn). lsu is probably the biggest question mark for me, but i'm a harris fan-boy at heart. think he could do some damage out there. jennings might be les's dude though.

also think that defenses are gonna be more aware of the spread attack that some of these teams are running now. they've had a couple years to recruit faster, longer defenders.

Huge drop off at tamu, but Murray's replacement got starts in lastyear from Murray's injury. Less of a learning curve there and sc.
 
When people are talking about bo Wallace as one of the better qb's in the sec, you know the league is really down at the position.

I was listening to a podcast today about this dude. Everyone was crazy about Ole Piss, but then they were like yeah...BoBo is there QB.
 
Bama's secondary is a concern for me. A lot of 4 & 5 stars but little production. That unit was weak LY (by Bama standards). With the backers I'm never down on a Saban LB core but..... We will see how much of What CJ Mosley brought can be replaced.

Then the champ got punched in the mouth, like boxing. When a boxer who's never touched the canvas does, something changes. It will be VERY interesting to see how Bama recovers. They used to beat teams before they played. Teams would be in fear and played not to get shitkicked.

Whether Bama was interested in the bowl is debateable but OU showed if you have talent & don't let Bama beat you before the game you can get em. I think they'll still be sterling, but when you've been punched in the mouth & know what canvas taste like it's a different world.

All the the weapons any QB want but is the QB the QB the weapons want?
 
Let me finish by saying yes they will win at least 11, so don't think I'm callin for shitsville. Just a lil shine is gone.
 
To your point about the DBs, it absolutely was the weakest link of the defense. Part of it was not having a lockdown corner like we've had in years past, part of it was injuries. Our best corner, Belue, was never healthy, sunseri was lost for season against Arky, Ha ha missed the sugar bowl, and Cyrus jones was a WR playing corner. This year there is a huge talent upgrade, and word from camp is that Cyrus is playing much better.

Predictions of Alabama's demise are greatly exaggerated and premature IMO. Since the beginning of 2008, Alabama has lost 7 games. 6 of those finished in the final top 10, 3 in the top 2. The other won the sec east. If the QB this season is as good as Greg McElroy, this team has the chance to be as good as any of the last 6 years. If the QB is better than McElroy, might be the best Bama team in the Saban era.

Homer response over. Love beer
 
Im sure half of Bama's team was thinking about the NFL draft but I couldnt believe how they couldnt protect AJ and how badly OU pushed them around. I know it was meaningless for them but still amazing.

Bo Wallace is a turd. If that guy is a top 3 QB in the league Im shocked.
 
Last year was a special year for SEC QBs. Don't have the info in front of me, but something like 5 or 6 teams had their all time leading passer playing, or at least top 3 all time. Thus, defenses looked worse than a normal year. This year, the top returning QBs will likely never play a down in the nfl, so I expect sec defenses to have much better numbers
 
Just like Jff appears to have slowed at the next level , Kenny hill did not awe n the few games he played ly. Kyle Allen has been n school since January and played in the spring. Easy info to get I know, but coach said in his presser that it didn't matter who started the first play at running back, everyone would play. Same at rcvr.
It's all about keeping the game moving for us and I can't see why he wouldn't use the same philosophy at qb.
Kenny's got guts too
 
aint missing much...looks like a HS school film project

some highlights I have never seen but....
 
Something I'm happy to hear out of Alabama practice last week: One of the LBs, can't remember who right now, but think it was Reggie Ragland, mentioned that they are starting to use different personnel groupings based on the type of offense they are playing. The assumption is that there will be faster LBs out there against the spread, HUNH teams, rather than Saban being stubborn and trying to prove he can stop those teams with his usual giant MLBs. Not there was anything wrong with the regular defense and stopping those teams, but there wasn't enough speed to on the field to make up for any mistakes
 
Something I'm happy to hear out of Alabama practice last week: One of the LBs, can't remember who right now, but think it was Reggie Ragland, mentioned that they are starting to use different personnel groupings based on the type of offense they are playing. The assumption is that there will be faster LBs out there against the spread, HUNH teams, rather than Saban being stubborn and trying to prove he can stop those teams with his usual giant MLBs. Not there was anything wrong with the regular defense and stopping those teams, but there wasn't enough speed to on the field to make up for any mistakes

This is big! That will be key to helping the secondary vs HUNH tms. Teams are moving to the longer lighter faster types at LB & away from the shorter no neck run stuff only guy. Allows for great diversity in how the D can play.

will see more big safety type LBs in the middle & conversely more light DE types at OLB in CFB
 
If 3 Alabama players are in a car, who is driving?

The Police.


Alabama's coach said that he would only be dressing half the team for their first game. The other half would have to dress themselves.
 
If 3 Alabama players are in a car, who is driving?

The Police.


Alabama's coach said that he would only be dressing half the team for their first game. The other half would have to dress themselves.

First joke makes more sense with UGA or Florida
 
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