A Lot of Stupid

Auburn not going for 2 up 5 made NO sense.

AND...when down 2 in the 4th they still should’ve gone for 2 after getting the False Start penalty with 9 minutes to go. I know obviously the odds of getting the conversion from 2 yards compared to 7 yards go down quite a bit, but down 2 with 9 minutes to go, you still go for 2 regardless.
 
Gus always sticks out in my mind as a guy who flies by the seat of his pants and does shit “his” way , not the right way. He has a talented squad but is only 3rd best in SEC west. Hell of a come back by his boys tonight.
 
The kid makes a false start and Gus berates and belittles him while Gus makes a mistake .... and then Gus makes another major mistake. Wish Oregon had scored and the lineman started berating him.
 
AliShaheed said:
Gus didn't go for 2 TWICE.

Special stupidity shout out to top 3 coach Clay Helton for going for it on 4th and 1 at midfield while up 8.
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Can you believe this dumbass. They're snapping the ball with 15-20 seconds left on the play clock with the lead late 4th qrtr. Announcers said they just dont have any awareness of the situation. How is this stuff happening unless Helton is trying to cover the 14pt spread? I had Fresno State +14 huge and was besides myself that they were eating clock late.
 
Looking at it again, USC is up 8 with under 5 minutes left and they're snapping the ball with 20 seconds left on the play clock. How do these coaches collect a check??? By covering the spread or winning games??? Fucking unbelievable
 
Malzahn is obviously not a numbers guy, jesus christ twice in one game and doesn't pay the ultimate price. Even if he misses a two pt conversion on the first instance, a FG could still have won the game. Just idiotic......
 
The other moron is Syracuse off coordinator Lynch, letting Devito continue to throw reckless passes at end of 1H which led to a dumb pick in the end zone when they had a cinch FG (which would have covered the 10.5 in the 1h). And yes I am biased.
 
I have no problem with malzahn not going for two the first time, there was still nearly ten mins to play. Not sure why you guys aren’t criticizing Cristobal? The whole stadium knew Oregon was running it on that 4th and 1 with the backup qb in
 
survive&advance said:
I have no problem with malzahn not going for two the first time, there was still nearly ten mins to play. Not sure why you guys aren’t criticizing Cristobal? The whole stadium knew Oregon was running it on that 4th and 1 with the backup qb in
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I was in the sportsbook with no volume .. but it looked like they called a timeout. If that is the case, couldn't the starter have been put back in? I mean, even if he is not ready physically to perform he can turn and hand it off and be a decoy. But maybe I am wrong about the rule and maybe he was more hurt than I thought. Shrug.
 
RetroVK said:
I was in the sportsbook with no volume .. but it looked like they called a timeout. If that is the case, couldn't the starter have been put back in? I mean, even if he is not ready physically to perform he can turn and hand it off and be a decoy. But maybe I am wrong about the rule and maybe he was more hurt than I thought. Shrug.
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The injured player needs to sit out a play before he can return regardless of whether or not a timeout was called.
 
USC and Helton I can't even describe how bad they mismanaged that last 6 mins. The qb frosh that had to come in looked like a dear in headlights and sure as hell got no help from Helton.

I know Stanfords qb got hurt too, but no way I can endorse that shitstorm in LA.
 
wiseplayer said:
It was strange how the broadcast only showed 1 angle from the defensive side. They never gave us a better angle.
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Yeah, that play was begging to be reviewed.

So what can an opposing coach do in that situation? Call a TO and ask / hope that it will get a 2nd look? Obviously no challenge flag in CFB. Felt like the FSU coach could have / should have done something.
 
A “lot of stupid” sums up bunch of bets I somehow lost yesterday, lol.

Ol piss thanks to a safety.

NW when they comfortably coveting w ball and 20 seconds to go.

So of course I also had the ducks +4. Why wouldn’t auburn throw it up and risk not getting a fg try to win?

fucking insane the bests I took yesterday, and it just week 1! Lol
 
What about cristobal use of TOs all second half the first one when they tried to draw them offsides and took a TO to punt and not a 5 yelped penalty was a joke beyond words then not knowing the injury timeout rule and burning 2 there just awful.....
 
I am still completely disgusted by the 4th quarter of the Oregon game and how it was coached.....I just don’t understand at all
 
I think a weekly Lot of Stupid thread might be necessary this season to zero in on coaches and teams that either have shit for brains or on someone's payroll.
 
With almost two minutes left in the first half last night and houston with the ball somewhere aroond the ou 20 (not looking up exact line of scrimmage), the sooners failed to call timeouts. Result was attempting a medium size fg as half expires when houston couldnt stop them.
 
Watching the last quarter of the USC game on espn. Unreal how the backward pass was ruled an incompletion. The line judge who called it incomplete called it from 5 yards further up where the LOS was. He had no angle and never allowed himself to process the play.
I've said this before and I'll say it again. We either have a tremendous amount of ignorance going on or these guys are on a supplemental payroll.
 
RetroVK said:
Ok. I wasn't sure of the rule.
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I thought they said an injured player can return after a timeout but in this case he had to sit out a play because his helmet came off the play before and in that case even if a timeout is called still need to sit out next play
 
I don’t think the USC pass was quite that obvious. He was being tackled forward so that made it look a lot worse. It was clearly backward from where he hit the ground but not from where he released it. They may have also ruled the ball was deflected when he was hit.
 
Lloyd Braun said:
I thought they said an injured player can return after a timeout but in this case he had to sit out a play because his helmet came off the play before and in that case even if a timeout is called still need to sit out next play
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If the helmet comes off, they CAN use a timeout and get the player back in. If he is injured (regardless of the helmet coming off or not), nothing gets him back in the next play, he has to sit out a play. I think they said it’s a new rule this year.
 
I don’t necessarily agree with Malzahn not going for 2 at the end of the game, I can only guess that they were thinking go up by 6 and even if something crazy happens and Oregon scores a TD, they can block the XP and still be tied.
 
jedi ninja said:
I don’t necessarily agree with Malzahn not going for 2 at the end of the game, I can only guess that they were thinking go up by 6 and even if something crazy happens and Oregon scores a TD, they can block the XP and still be tied.
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If that's true, that's really coaching scared. Not sure he was thinking there could be a 100 yard return over being up 7. Risk reward was too good not to go for 2.
 
wiseplayer said:
If that's true, that's really coaching scared. Not sure he was thinking there could be a 100 yard return over being up 7. Risk reward was too good not to go for 2.
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Didn’t need a 100 yard return though. Remember, there was a celebration penalty, so the kickoff was 15 yds back...and Oregon DID end up returning it well into Auburn territory and had a shot for the one play to the EZ.

Again, I’m not saying I agree with the decision, just thinking what their possible reasoning may have been.
 
wiseplayer said:
If that's true, that's really coaching scared. Not sure he was thinking there could be a 100 yard return over being up 7. Risk reward was too good not to go for 2.
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And what’s the risk/reward in that spot? The only way 7 comes into play is by the miracle TD anyway, which you don’t even think he would have been thinking about.
 
jedi ninja said:
And what’s the risk/reward in that spot? The only way 7 comes into play is by the miracle TD anyway, which you don’t even think he would have been thinking about.
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So you're saying, Malzhan didnt go for 2 for fear of giving up 2pts on the conversation? Maybe the most ridiculous thing I've heard but this is the thread of, A Lot of Stupid if he thought that way.
 
wiseplayer said:
So you're saying, Malzhan didnt go for 2 for fear of giving up 2pts on the conversation? Maybe the most ridiculous thing I've heard but this is the thread of, A Lot of Stupid if he thought that way.
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What? No, that’s not what I’m saying at all.
 
wiseplayer said:
So you're saying, Malzhan didnt go for 2 for fear of giving up 2pts on the conversation? Maybe the most ridiculous thing I've heard but this is the thread of, A Lot of Stupid if he thought that way.
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I’m asking you what you’re saying the risk/reward is in that spot. You said it was too good not to go for 2.

It’s the same ending logic in both scenarios is my point. If they’re up 6 or 7, the only way it matters is if the miracle TD happens. And the only way you 100% assure yourself of a loss if that miracle TD happens is by being up 5.
 
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