A couple I'm thinking about for Sunday

Joe Public

Joe Public

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I'm not on anything yet, and I had a bad finish to the weekend last week, so maybe that's what's making me a little hesitant.

But here are a couple I'm debating on.

Arizona +8

Let's see, you have a Baltimore team that is struggling to score, McNair not healthy (when is he), going against a good secondary, and the Pittsburgh Steelers' former staff who's intimately familiar with what Baltimore does.

The Cardinals have better receivers, and their secondary is better than what Baltimore has on the outside.

They're also running the ball well, although I don't think that totally carries through this weekend.

Still, why wouldn't I play them here?


SF +9

This number is far too high. Now, in reality, I want to bet Pittsburgh. But what I think of is how the Niners travel. Anybody remember them going into Denver last year as 10 point dogs and knocking the Broncos out of the playoffs?

This team can win and play well on the road. My worry is Alex Smith. I don't know if I trust this offense. This bet would almost be more me backing that defense--which may be enough, but I'm just not sure.

Green Bay +4/ML

This is less about me buying into GB's hype as it is me going against SD. Two long plane flights back to back and Norv Turner sucks.

See, the Chargers used to travel well under Marty, and they used to travel to early games on the east coast well under Marty--why I don't know. But that staff is gone, I imagine that routine is now gone, too. Brady threw on SD, why not Farve?

What gives me pause here is how much better the AFC again looks than the NFC. This is an SD team that just beat the Bears two weeks ago--and some of that was thanks to poor play from the Bears, but still, if Rivers and LT have a good game, SD wins this game by double digits.

Cincy +whatever/ML

I really think this Cincy team wins this game. But Seattle has that HFA, Cincy's O-line doesn't appear to be all that healthy--and we all saw that Bengal defense on display last week.

Again, I hesitate.

Any thoughts on the above would be appreciated.
 
I may be on those Packers also... I think that Norv Turner thing is starting to kick in now...

I like Cincy as well...

gl this week Joe

:cheers:
 
I agree with all your thoughts. What scares me in Balt is their defense scoring off some shaky Leinart throws.
 
Thanks, guys, though as I said, these are just where I'm leaning.

I'm still not sold completely on anything, though the Bears and Indy are pretty close--oh, and I'll definitely be betting Kansas City.
 
I see Green Bay at +5.5 in one of my books. I'm seriously thinking about it. I just dont know if I want to bet against Tomlinson.

I just took Pittsburgh -9, I think they put a whooping on 49ers.
 
I just took Pittsburgh -9, I think they put a whooping on 49ers.

This is what I'm trying to get it.

Why?

If you're going against Alex Smith, that I totally get, but other than playing against the SF offense I'm trying to see what justifies a -9.
 
-joe, pitt has been playing great as of late... i would lay off the game. pitts is at home and the niners arn't that great on the road
 
Yeah, Ghost, I had Pitt last week and I'm a believer, at least in large part.

But they've played nobody to this point. Not that SF's schedule's been all that hard, but they do have that road win, and I'm not convinced they're such a nightmare on the road.

Also, I believe in that defense.

I may layoff there, but it is tempting.
 
I am going against Alex Smith. I just think that the Steelers are better on both sides of the ball. I have more thoughts about it in my thread I just made.
 
Joe Public said:
I just took Pittsburgh -9, I think they put a whooping on 49ers.

This is what I'm trying to get it.

Why?

If you're going against Alex Smith, that I totally get, but other than playing against the SF offense I'm trying to see what justifies a -9.
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you could play against the SF defense too...


Parker went over 100 yards in back to back games and now he's facing a SF defense that gave up over 160 rushing yards to Arizona (of all teams)... and considering Bulger passed for over 360 yards against the Niners pass defense, it wouldn't be hard to imagine Big Ben put in over 200 and have a good game...

The Steelers have one of the best defenses in the league... so the Niner offense doesn't need to be discussed much... once Gore is out of the picture.. what else do they have??

I don't see many ways SF can cover here... and you would have to think the odds are in your favor if you take PITT.
 
The Steelers have one of the best defenses in the league... so the Niner offense doesn't need to be discussed much... once Gore is out of the picture.. what else do they have??

I'm not going to say the Steelers defense is up there, not yet. They've played a guy who's now the third stringer in Seattle and JP Losman. Even after this week I'll still want to see them play a Carson Palmer before I get all frothy about them.

And, as far as weapons they have Vernon Davis, but they don't throw him the ball so that sort of ends that threat.

I am cooling on the Niners, though, thanks to some of this and I'll check your thread, too, ED.
 
Joe Public said:
The Steelers have one of the best defenses in the league... so the Niner offense doesn't need to be discussed much... once Gore is out of the picture.. what else do they have??

I'm not going to say the Steelers defense is up there, not yet. They've played a guy who's now the third stringer in Seattle and JP Losman. Even after this week I'll still want to see them play a Carson Palmer before I get all frothy about them.

And, as far as weapons they have Vernon Davis, but they don't throw him the ball so that sort of ends that threat.

I am cooling on the Niners, though, thanks to some of this and I'll check your thread, too, ED.
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actually, that "now third stringer in Seattle" only played a quarter and a half... the majority of the game was played by Anderson... you know.. that guy that looked like Superman against the Bengals passing for over 300 yards and 5 tds. Unfortunately, in almost 3 quarters against the Steelers, all he could muster up was a one yard td pass and like Frye, a less than 50% completion rate and a pick... you would think since they were down by alot when he came in, that he would at least get something going...

They may have played Buffalo and Cleveland, but they did better against those two teams than the other teams they faced...

cmon Joe... give em' some credit here... it's not like the Steelers are playing low-scoring games... they are playing the fast paced games averaging 30 pts per game and have only allowed one td in both games combined... plus they are ranked 3rd against the pass, 5th against the run, and 3rd overall... what more do you want? Considering the amount of opportunites the opposing offenses had, you would think they would score more. Instead, they had 6 turnovers in both games combined.

I just don't think you are giving credit where it is deserved. You are just taking into account who they played without the value that the teams they played pretty much did NOTHING against em.
 
btw... saying the Niners have Vernon Davis is like saying the Bills have Lee Evans...

in the end there will be the excuse of saying... I shouldn't have trusted Losman.. or in this case.. Alex Smith.
 
I'm coming off harsh, and that's probably unfair. Particularly since I actually bet on Pittsburgh last weekend.

I do give them credit, certainly for man-handling Cleveland who had every reason to come out strong in that game.

Let me tell you what I like about Pittsburgh.

They're doing what I think all really good teams do, they get on top of someone, and they step on their throat and end the game.

None of this backdoor s**t. None of this getting out to 17 point leads and chucking it all back.

I respect that. And, as a bettor, I covet it.

But I'm hard on teams, especially good ones or ones that I think could be good.

And you have to admit that right now Pittsburgh has played a bad Cleveland team and a Buffalo team that was thin on defense and in a horrible emotional spot coming off that injury.

Now, you can't be faulted for playing your schedule. I grant that. And as I said, I love the fact that the Steelers seem to be a very, very strong team.

I'm just not completely sold yet, not based on what they've done, they've done everything you could ask a team in their situation to do, but based on how I view the two teams they've played.

Frankly, the only reason I don't jump on them this weekend is because I think this line is unreasonably high.

I do think they win this game, and at a 4.5 I may not even have posted this game as a maybe, but I might have already assumed and bet the Steelers.

Which, now that I say it, may be me more and more talking myself into flipping sides or laying off all together.
 
Joe,

SF/Pitt.............west coast team going east in the early game. Always a bad sign.

GL on your plays,

Press
 
seahawks are going to be a team who struggles on the road this year, but cleans up at home. They cover with ease this weekend imo.
 
Joe...Initially I was on SF until I took a closer look.This SF team has a much improved defense(no doubt) but their pop gun offense is not going to get it done here.Plus they are on the road 2 consecutive weeks travelling further east for an early game.Bad news.

Tomlin has these guys focussed.Gore was not that impressive last week and we know if an athlete takes the field that soon after has has lost a loved one,they usually galvanize that emotion and play well.He had 81 yards and if he didn't break that one big run for 43,it wouldn't have been a great day for him.

Also LW the niners were out first downed 20-8 and outgained 392-186.If it wasn't for a recovered fumble and muffed punt they were out of it.Now how do you think that will bode vs. the Steelers who relish going up 3-0 and put a licking on them while doing it. They allowed 9 ppg in NFLX and now have allowed only 10 pts. in 2 games.

Pitt has not allowed a 100 yd. rusher in 24 games !

Better 3-4 defense,travel edge and a much better QB.IMHO,Smith was way overrated when recruited and will be a journeyman QB at best in this league.

I wish you well on your plays.
 
I don't know about GB and Arizona. Baltimore's D may be old but Leinart is gonna feel the pain and rush and make bad decisions. AZ has no defense either so McNair is back and will look to get back to his old self. I think this GB game is F'ed up with SD coming in favored 5. GB has great fans but lets face it... GB got lucky at home against Philly and can't remember who they played week 2.

Other than those 2 I love the SF and Cincy picks... GL with the GB/AZ.
 
Here are my thoughts. Pitt and SF both have played nobody in the first 2 weeks. what we have seen though is Pitt has put points on the board and played good D. SF escaped a win in week 1 against Ariz and then besides Gore's 43 yard scamper, the O didn't muster up much. SF D defibately improved but I look at the spread Vegas made this week for 2 2-0 teams and this smells of a Pitt romp. Just my $.02 on that game.
As for the others, Marty ball is looking like it was pretty good in SD!!!! The Chargers have not found their identity yet and I believe this to be a defensive battle that goes down to the end. I lean the home doggie there.
As for Cincy, Qwest field is going to be their daddy this week. If you have Alexander this week, enjoy in fantasy because he is going to run all over these guys. I say a small 27-20 victory for Sea. GL everyone.
 
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