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jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
Outside of Hideki who didn’t go? Adam Scott maybe?
They’ve taken a pretty good group of golfers thus far.
Not really.
Cam, yes.
Jacko, solid.
DJ is DJ but he doesn't care heavily.
Brooks and Bryson don't turn the needle anymore.
The euros are all over the hill.
Reed? Lol.
Very uninspiring field this weekend.
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
LOL BAR, PGA Tour was ready to sell us a half dozen of these guys in a couple of weeks at the President Cup as a formidable challenge to the US team.
All those Euros except Westwood are younger than Tiger. Euros are all over the hill but we can't wait to see when a 46 year old poor putting one legged guy turns up again.....ooookayyy
All those Euros except Westwood are younger than Tiger. Euros are all over the hill but we can't wait to see when a 46 year old poor putting one legged guy turns up again.....ooookayyy
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
It seems I misunderstood you, my bad.
I thought you meant letdown meaning you had heard of other names that didn't end up going, like Hideki and Adam Scott, after the Tour Champ.
Well, those were rumored...
A few posts here and the general narrative was that a bunch of guys were leaving after the tour champ. That did not happen. The handful that left are very underwhelming (we knew Cam was gone).
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
I thought what was said in here pretty much did happen outside of a couple of guys. Were you expecting 15-20 guys leaving?
I would have expected a lot more with the rhetoric. Lots of "wait until after the fedex cup" along with LIV chatting about just how many top 40 agents were calling and begging to join but there just wasn't room....
Evidently plenty of room though for the likes of Lahiri, Leish, Tringale, HV3
Cam and Neimann are legit....they move the needle IMO so kudos to LIV (especially international) but clearly the PGA was able to stand ground pretty well here keeping Deki and Cam Young at a minimum as part of the rumored departures. I kind of expected at least one surprise name that mattered....that didn't come close to happening.
Has LIV announced who's getting cut?
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
Why do they need to cut anyone?
The latest news is they’re expanding in 2023 14 tourneys, possibly up to 25 (along with Asian Tour events), are making the teams permanent for the entire season (as opposed to changing weekly as they do now), and may introduce a relegation/promotion system to the league.
LIV Golf Reveals Aggressive Expansion Plans for 2023 With a New Team Concept, More Tournaments, and a Lot More Money
LIV Golf has announced big expansion plans for their 2023 season.
www.sportscasting.com
They only allow 54 players per tournament and seems like 15-20 guys have joined since it startedWhy do they need to cut anyone?
The latest news is they’re expanding in 2023 14 tourneys, possibly up to 25 (along with Asian Tour events), are making the teams permanent for the entire season (as opposed to changing weekly as they do now), and may introduce a relegation/promotion system to the league.
LIV Golf Reveals Aggressive Expansion Plans for 2023 With a New Team Concept, More Tournaments, and a Lot More Money
LIV Golf has announced big expansion plans for their 2023 season.
That same amount of guys gotta get cut no?
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
Well, apparently no…as they just outlined in that article.
The Japanese guys are all OUT this week.
Relegated is essentially getting cut
Theres also a zero chance that any of the big names get relegated
I'm not even saying it as a criticism, just that a lot of guys are at risk now of not being able to play in every tournament, which hurts their earnings
I saw that and figured maybe a big asian tour event but their is no tourney this week
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
That’s why it sounds like they’re incorporating the Asian Tour. There are 11 events players can play. There’s also nothing saying they can’t increase their fields for next year. This all seems pretty fluid, and not nearly as rigid as some are making it out to be.
They can't do the shotgun start if they raise the field which is supposed to be one of the big draws
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
They could go to groups of 4, which adds 18 golfers right off the bat. And again, who is saying it has to stay as currently constructed?
I think the shotgun start would be way down the list of “draws” for the players.
My guess is, and this has been mentioned by golf guys for awhile as a possibility so it's not an original thought
They eventually make the team thing real with 18 of them
As in Mickelson owns a team. That team can only start 3, but maybe they have 5 or 6 guys on it. Up to the team to choose which 4 depending on tournament
So they end up kinda like f1 with a constructors championship
So eventually 18 teams, probably want big companies to own them eventually and run it
They eventually make the team thing real with 18 of them
As in Mickelson owns a team. That team can only start 3, but maybe they have 5 or 6 guys on it. Up to the team to choose which 4 depending on tournament
So they end up kinda like f1 with a constructors championship
So eventually 18 teams, probably want big companies to own them eventually and run it
It doesn't.
If it's not in some ways different though, it's not going to draw
Especially with the fields they have now, and if of the 25 tournaments, players only need to play 14 total
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
Only 14 of the tournaments will be LIV events. The other 11 tournaments are Asian Tour events.
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
I think that's where they're headed, yes. Saw rumors that Adidas was interested in owning a team.....would not be hard to envision except they need to work out the money aspect. Saudis are willing to eat losses for this, businesses would want to see more return. Although the worldwide nature would be more lucrative than US only.
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
There’s also only 48 guys per event right, not 54?
So even the shotgun start they use isn’t at full capacity, so they can add 24 golfers just by going 4 per group and the shotgun start.
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
Yes. What did I say that was different? 14 LIV events and 11 Asian Tour “international events”.
Ya, red bull is one that sticks out, even though they arent a golf company they have an f1 team and multiple European football teams
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
Also, the fact they only need to play 14 of the 25 events means that 48 number is meaningless as everyone won’t be playing every week. My point about the Asian Tour events was also in relation to the number of players…those fields are bigger so more guys can play and have it count towards their 14 events.
To the guys point in his tweet about the amount of golf…14 of those events are still only 54 holes so no matter how you slice it, it’s less golf.
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
By making the teams permanent, at least for the season, it should make it more interesting than having the teams change every week.
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
LIV 2023 plans have leaked out:
Greenbrier is a former longtime PGA Tour course. Phil had sponsorship connections there.
Surprised to see no Boston event.
No Saudi event next year is also interesting.
- February: Florida (Course TBD)
- February: California (Course TBD)
- March: Tucson (Dove Mountain or the Gallery)
- April: Australia (Sydney or Queensland)
- April: Singapore (Sentosa)
- May: Washington (Week after PGA Championship, Course TBD)
- June: Philadelphia (course TBD)
- July: London (Centurion)
- July: Spain (Valderrama) Week before the Open Championship
- August: New Jersey (Bedminster)
- August: West Virginia (The Greenbrier)
- September: Chicago (course TBD)
- September: Toronto or Mexico (course TBD)
- September: Florida (Trump Doral)
Greenbrier is a former longtime PGA Tour course. Phil had sponsorship connections there.
Surprised to see no Boston event.
No Saudi event next year is also interesting.
DaddyMcIlhon
Well-Known Member
Great finish today.
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
This is good. Haha.
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
I like the honesty, but in reality his gripe about the distraction is completely on the PGA Tour and the media. None of the LIV guys are commanding the attention or trying to distract anyone, they're just there to play golf. The ENTIRE distraction has been created by the PGA Tour...if they didn't keep talking about it, and the media didn't keep bringing it up, there would be zero "distraction."
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
God Bless the Queen
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
God Bless the Queen
That’s odd. A 54 hole tournament and all is well? You don’t say.
Gandolf
Leader of the Van Buren Boys
Shocking, I know. Gooch finished 4th, 2 shots behind Lowry, 1 behind Rory.
After claiming move to LIV Golf was to 'spend time with the kids,' Patrick Reed will play five events in September, 26 in 2022
When the 2018 Masters champion joined LIV Golf, he insisted he was sick of the constant grind of the PGA Tour.
golfweek.usatoday.com
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
After claiming move to LIV Golf was to 'spend time with the kids,' Patrick Reed will play five events in September, 26 in 2022
When the 2018 Masters champion joined LIV Golf, he insisted he was sick of the constant grind of the PGA Tour.
This is kinda silly. He played a bunch of PGA events before making the switch and giving his reason, so the number of tourneys this year will obviously be higher than it will, say next year when he only plays LIV events.
If the same is true next year, then there may be a point…but even still the LIV events are one less round so one less day a week, so he will clearly be playing less golf and be away from his family less than he was this year, or any year in the past when he only played PGA events.
LIV does pro ams.
The week isn't really all that shorter.
He's playing 5 straight events in September when school is back in.
These guys wanted the money , and that's fine. The guise of doing it for family time is BS.
Remember, a lot of these guys want PGA Tour cards still. That puts them at 29 min events to satisfy both tours.
Again, the point here is these guys are all about a money grab. That's it. No issues. Just stop with the BS.
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
Which is why I said let’s see what the schedule looks like next year. If the PGA isn’t allowing them cards (which is what they said) he won’t have to play any extra events to get a card he can’t have. Unless the PGA changed their minds already?
One less round an event is still one less day a week no matter how you slice it. Let’s wait for it to play out before passing judgment is all I’m saying. I know, such a radical idea these days.
Oh, they won't be having cards in all likelihood.
Guys like Reed will be grinding on Asian Tour.
jedi ninja
Larry is my name, logic is my game
He might be, but until that happens it doesn’t seem fair to act like he’s playing as many, or more events, than he did as a PGA player when this season he played on both tours. If he does, then absolutely someone should call him out.
That's fine.
Just funny he's devoting all this time to golf this month.
Patrick is one of the bigger turds in sports, so this is on brand.
RBTrojan
Well-Known Member
Speaking of turds...
golfweek.usatoday.com
Lynch: Sergio Garcia bolsters his reputation for unprofessionalism, yet again
Why did Garcia enter a tournament at which he wasn’t welcome, played on a course he doesn’t like?
golfweek.usatoday.com