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Week One Early Discussion

B.A.R.

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Thursday:

C. Michigan +14.5 vs Boston College
Ball St -3.5 vs E.Michigan
Buffalo -6 vs Temple
Miami(oh) +4 vs N'Western
Kent +17 vs Minnesota
Iowa St. -7.5 vs Toledo
Miss St +8 vs S. Carolina
SDSU +4 vs UTEP
MTSU -12.5 vs FIU

Friday:

Fresno -9 vs Nevada

Saturday:

Michigan -28 Vs Vanderbilt
Ohio St -16.5 vs N.Illinois
Penn St -17 vs Akron
Michigan St -29 vs Idaho
Bowling Green +7 vs Wisconsin
WVU -17.5 vs Marshall
Oregon -13.5 vs Stanford
N.Carolina -3 vs Rutgers
Louisville -25 vs Kentucky
Nebraska -23 vs La Tech
Washington -26 vs SJSU
Alabama -14.5 vs Hawaii
Wyoming -11.5 vs Utah St
Tennessee -3 vs California
Navy -11.5 vs East Carolina
Indiana -5 vs W.Michigan
UCLA -5.5 vs Utah
Florida -17 vs So Miss
Wake -9 vs Syracuse
Texas Tech -28 vs SMU
Pitt -3.5 vs Virginia
Auburn -11 vs Wazzou
Georgia Tech +8 vs Notre Dame
Arkansas +9.5 vs USC
Rice +13.5 vs Houston
Arizona -7 vs BYU
Clemson -28 vs FLA ATL
Arkansas St +7 vs Army
Texas -40 vs N.Texas
LSU -33 vs ULL

Sunday:

Ole Miss -3 vs Memphis
Baylor +13.5 vs TCU

Monday:

Miami(fl) -3.5 vs FSU
 
Go ahead and discuss the games

We will redo this thread or add on when Pinny's lines become available. I would like to get something like this going each Sunday night when the lines are released. I have talked to Hunt about that and he loves the idea. Getting everyone's opinions together early in the week can only help the capping process.
 
These are courtesy of millenium sports

I see a lot has changed since they first released these. Horn hammered them(lol).
 
i wanna see that central michigan line get pushed up a lil more come game time an i will be on em. kinda lik my heels -3 vs rutgers. once pinny drops they offical lines i will know where i sit. what we got, like 45 days or so till this shit kicks off? cant get here any damn sooner
 
42 Days Tru

Man..Imma telling yas..every year July and August drag on it seems.
 
way to get this started BAR

what sticks out at everyone?

I love North Illy getting 16.5...Wolfe will make OSU defense look silly the first game. Horvath is a solid QB, they have some depth on both sides of the ball. I will admit I am scared of Ginn and Smith though.

Also love Akron getting 17 against PSU...PSU will be starting a new unrpoven QB..Akron has a wide open attack and will have a good O this year. Getty is the real deal and PSU defense will not be as good.

THese big ten teams such as OSU and PSU are generally conservative in the beginning of the year IMO and these are nice lines.

I will take WVU against marshall - whatever in the first half..they will run it down Marshall's throat.

Nebraska -23....this is my sleeper team this year. That is a really low number with a defense that might cover this number on their own.

Still looking at FLa, arky, auburn and Utah ML.
 
Week One early thoughts.

I like Forida quite a bit -17 at Home against So. Piss. New QB first start in the swamp. This hsould get ugly. Piss has a solid defense but this is year two of the Meyer stsyem and it should explode this year. Leak is gonna have a helluva year and they need to be clicking outta the gate with the tough schedule they have. I will most likely lay the points.

Hunt, I agree with the dogs at OSU and PSU. We talked about Getty. He is a damn good QB. Their defense worries me but I think the offense will get enough going to keep it around a 10-13 point margin. The Buckeyes defense will be below their standards till later in the year. This game will be similar to the UM-NIU game last year.

I have been looking at the ISU-Toledo game quite hard. Again, a new QB on road and ISU has a great QB in my opinion in Meyer. Toledo still has talent but I wouldn't back teams that lose a Senior QB and other skill players in a road game in tough venue.

I have loved Arkansas for months. I know the game will have major action. Luckily the public will kepp the number where its at at least. I will also put a small amount on the ML.

bak in a few...
 
Hell naw. We comin hard baby. Half a game back now.

I'll be back eventually with Week 1 thoughts. Good discussion.
 
some other thoughts...

Hunt, I totally agree on you for the first half play on WVU. I know how much you cleaned up on first halves last year and will be on that for sure.

I have been looking at Pitt as kinda a team I may ride here or there. I have a list of potential spots for them this year:

Home games vs Michigan St, Toledo, WVU and UL.

You are looking at lines of say PK, -7.5, +12 and +6.5 respectivly in those contests. They can really make their mark by winning 3 outta these 5 IMO. I actually thought they would be more towards PK in the Virginia game but obviously the early line reflects how this team should be this season.

I look for them to have a good year. Conceivably they could be favored in 5 road games. Myabe not all, but possibly(Cincy, Cuse, UCF, SFla and Uconn).

They have solid defensive backs, nice D-line and good special teams. Thats a good start. Palko is another asset. After that ugly early season last year they improved mightily. Dave's second go around there should be good IMO.

For the large spreads:

I had Michigan coming out like 21.5, and I believe at one point betmill had a 30 number. Wow. I do think UM comes out and really makes an early statement. Uncle Lloyd can't afford to be conservative. I also think the defense will produce many points in this game. I wouldn't touch it.

I think LSU just falttens ULL. I mean, I see 48-6 here, and thats being kind. Hunt, imma sure your gonna be liking the half play here. interested to know if you think thats safer or if they are both solid.
 
What up BDK...good to see you in here...we need some east coast bias.

BAR,

I like the iowa state game as well...but I have a feeling that is going to be a HUGE public play...I need to research Toledo more but I agree on the QB front. I just remember last year ISU found ways to lose close games they had no business losing.

Another good one for a first half will be texas tech against SMU...anything under 20 should be gold..they have some solid weapons on O again and crush inferior opponents...Leach runs the score up on anyone.

good looking out on Pitt bro..I have not looked up on them much yet.

LSU game looks good but I need to know more about the qb situation...any SEC guys know what is going on there? are the qb's switching at half or every series? I am not a big fan of the switching format no matter the talent..it disrupts the flow of the game, especially in first halfs when they can be trying way to hard...although they will probably running a lot in this first game.

I love the U this year as well.....that D is gonna be great again..and Wright will be much more comfortable...FSU rode their defense at the end last year and they are missing some key guys on that side of the ball..nicholson and simms come to mind.

UM laying 30??? can't do it bro...maybe first half though..uncle lloyd likes to open up a little in the first half then he gets ultra conservative and protects the lead. Breaston will be the key in that first half getting good field position on special teams and Hart has a chip on his shoulder this year...he will be a man possessed. Vanderbilt will be a little shook in the early going then might gain confidence in the second half.

good stuff BAR
 
Whatup hunt?

What do you guys think about Ville layin the big wood? Shouldn't that offense absolutely MAUL Kentucky?
 
BDK,

not much man...I am feanin for some football yo. I like Louisville in that game but need to read up on Kentucky a little bit...what's your take?

I like to play first half spreads in the first 4 or 5 weeks on great offenses like BAR stated....these teams have a huge advantage especially against weaker competition..my capping style is different than a lot of people but it works for me....I see too many mooses at the end of games and the emotional level is so high in the beginning of a game it is good to take the firepower....if it loses there is always a second half bet...so I take half and half instead of putting it all on one full game...but these are only for great O's against the weaker competition in the begining.

MSU will be a good first half play against Idaho too..you have to take in account that the starters rest a lot in the second half because these teams have big games in the few weeks after and don't want to show anything..very vanilla...

How do you cap such an even game as tenny and Cal early...those are too hard IMO..even Miami and FSU is hard, I may lay off that when it comes down to it and just go opposite of the pub...I stay away from those low spreads in the first week, especially with even matched teams..too tough..why not take a running attack like WVU has or an all out air attack like texas tech who you know will generate the points almost every possession against inferior competition?
 
Hunt...I don't know much about the Potatoe Patch yet..But I do think the Spartans come out real strong. Bottom line is, Stanton was a hesiman candidate till the injury. This team had Ohio Stae w/o the special teams blunder. They were walking all over that team 1st half. I think they come out clicking hard in 1st half and should be up at least 17. They will get 24-28 in the half I think..easily....


Hunt..Its crick time baby...LMAO
 
Jesus I can't believe how much some of these lines have moved. Must of been mine and my gal's $100 max bets that pushed them over the top.

I'm working on write-ups for each but this is what I played each for $200.

THU

BC -13.5
NW -3
SDSU +7
Minny -15.5
ISU -6

FRI

NEV +10

SAT

Tenn +3
Arkie +10
Whisky PK
Pitt -2
LSU -31
Vandy +30
UT -40
Auburn -11

MON

Baylor +14
Miami -3.5
 
SHSUHorn said:
Jesus I can't believe how much some of these lines have moved. Must of been mine and my gal's $100 max bets that pushed them over the top.

I'm working on write-ups for each but this is what I played each for $200.

THU

BC -13.5
NW -3
SDSU +7
Minny -15.5
ISU -6

FRI

NEV +10

SAT

Tenn +3
Arkie +10
Whisky PK
Pitt -2
LSU -31
Vandy +30
UT -40
Auburn -11

MON

Baylor +14
Miami -3.5

BTW...I'm still into these....let u know what I think in a couple days....

GL BROTHA!!
 
oh boy, can't wait to see what you guys have, i am quite pathetic when it comes to CFB but for some weird reason Baseball has just kicked my ass a lot worse than CFB, so i am willing to try again this year. help a chinese man out!
 
Toronto, Good to see you join us. Just cause your asian doesn't mean you can't win in cfb lol. I'm half Thai so I'll help you out.

Look forward to seeing you in the soccer forum. Hopefully Man U can grab Gattuso and Torres becuase damn Chelsea looks friggin stacked again.
 
SHSUHorn said:
Toronto, Good to see you join us. Just cause your asian doesn't mean you can't win in cfb lol. I'm half Thai so I'll help you out.

Look forward to seeing you in the soccer forum. Hopefully Man U can grab Gattuso and Torres becuase damn Chelsea looks friggin stacked again.

Hahaha i enjoy watching football though i get annoyed that CFB takes a long time. I want to learn more about it so than i am not so dependant on other people's plays. I require extreme luck in CFB, cause i took my biggest ever moose job last year in the Louisville/Pitt game. So i hope i don't get jipped that bad again.

:D
 
Horn...thats quite a nice early card you got..

Should get outta the gates pretty quick this year...I really like 8 of them..and am just getting started..

Imma have to get a millenium account next year for that shit.....unreal how they have moved
 
B.A.R your going to have to hold off on that since Betmill is apart of betonsports.com. The site has been turned off for now and I'm freakin a little since I have about $3200 in bets out there.
 
Yeah...I thought about that this morning.

Hopefully everything gets straightened out. Thats a bitch.
 
SHSUHorn said:
B.A.R your going to have to hold off on that since Betmill is apart of betonsports.com. The site has been turned off for now and I'm freakin a little since I have about $3200 in bets out there.

Unbelievable...hopefully they get their bluff called and stop this stupid shit...
 
Gentlemen,

first of all, I want to thank Fondy for inviting me to the forum...based on these most rescent lines, here are my initial leans:

Kent St. +17
Miami OH +4
Stanford +13.5
La. Tech +23
So. Miss +17
BGSU +7
Wazuu +11 (line is to low IMO)
Georgia Tech +8
BYU +7
Baylor +13.5
 
I have a feeling that BetOnSports and their subsidiaries' assets will be tied up through the season. That $3200 might have to be kissed off.
 
rjurewitz said:
I have a feeling that BetOnSports and their subsidiaries' assets will be tied up through the season. That $3200 might have to be kissed off.

That would be a shame for horn...
 
I agree that money is adios for now. I'm fuckin pissed. My l open an account there and deposit that money a week before it all goes to hell.
 
fuck horn..we might have to gather some soldiers together and go down there and beat some ass.
 
ummm this is a stupid question.....how do you guys cap CFB games? Hahah sorry its very newbish but i honestly have no clue and would like to pay more attention
 
well...what do you want to know specifically mike? are you a college foots fan? are you familiar with rivalries and stuff like that? I will try and help you.
 
I follow SEC more, because i am a Tennessee Vols fan. But i do not know formations, infact i really don't know players you know. I don't know how to figure out if a team is very offensive or defensive. I am willing to take CFB another shot because you will not believe how bad i got hit last year. I thought i knew what i was doing but apparently know. I do know that the line movements is something to keep an eye on. I really try and stay on sports that do not have a huge effect on line movement such as Soccer, Tennis, Baseball.

I got moosed so bad during the Louisville/Pitt game. I took a stupid game prop Louisville over 43 team points. I also took 1H Louisville over 22.5 team points 2H Louisville over 21.5 points.

Well Louisville wins 42-20, scores 22 1H points and scores 20 2H Points.

Questions i'm concerned about is, betting props a good or bad thing, betting halves good or bad thing. Just tell me from your experience what to do and what not to do with CFB
 
Toronto...

there are some great cappers here for this sport...as for myself, I like to play first halfs with a great Offense against weaker defense. I read all I can during the week to get info...there is a lot that goes into college foots since there are so many teams..it is hard to keep up at times of injuries, suspensions etc...remember these are all mostly 18-20 yr old kids.

I generally stay away from player props aand such but will hit one If I really like it..I know SHSUhorn is pretty good at player props though.

It is a lot like soccer as far as the emotion and rivalries go....are the teams up or down? you have situations such as big games a team will win and afterwards is emotionally spent and then the next week have a letdown..it happens often in this sport...situations are key IMO

GL..hope this helps somewhat.
 
Mike, everyone has their own style of capping.

I like to incorporate different things myself.

Here's just some random thoughts:

-Its not just that particular Saturday. You need to evaluate the week before and the week after. Confusing? Heres an example. I'll use Michigan State as the team we are looking at. They play 3 consecutive weeks in October. The second week is against Michigan. That sets up spots perhaps in weeks 1 and 3 on their games. This is especially prevelent when they lose in Week 2 to Michigan. Week 3 leads to an excellent fade. They may also be looking ahead in Week one to Week 2.

-Trends should be used as smaller supporting facts to build your case(play)

-Early in year, access which team have returners at what positions.

-Revenge games

-Scheduling. Perhaps a team is playing 3rd consecutive week on road. Perhaps a team is gonna go to Hawaii and not be focused on game.

Those are just some of the things I look at. Its been a trend for many years for me. September is very easy to win in. October usually is even to getting hurt a lot on the games. This is sorta the trap month IMO(lol). The last couple of weeks are solid. Bowls are the easiest. I have done aweome in bolws 3-4 years now in a row. Thats where you can really find good spots.

GL...Imma sure others will add to the capping thoughts.

PS...reading the threads here and coming to an informed conclusion does very well indeed.
 
Here's some of the plays I'm currently liking:

Houston -13.5 over Rice: This is year 4 for Briles offensive schemes and these are now mostly his recruits for his system. We all understand the fact that Houston, for the most part, has to settle for the "second and third best" in recruiting. But, still, they are in a conference that will allow them to win against mostly non-BCS teams.

In 2004 they went 3-8. In 2005 they went 6-6. This is the pattern teams follow that change to drastic passing offensive schemes. This season, if the pattern continues, and I think it will, they should make there way back to a post season bowl and my projection is they will go 8-4 on the season.

They bring back 7 offensive starters including their veteran Senior QB Kolb. Defensively they bring back 9.

All we need to know about Rice is this -- they went 1-10 last season as an option team, and this season they have changed their entire coaching staff, and OC, Major Appelwhite, will be implementing an all new "passing scheme." He will do it with option QBs and players. It will not go over well this season.

I think an improved Houston team will win this game by 3 TDs or more!

Oklahoma -28 vs. UAB: Oklahoma has the best defense in the nation -- and they are deep as well! Hackney is gone and Brown has already admitted back in the Spring that they will have to rely a lot on their RBs this season and the run game. They will not be able to run against Oklahoma! I seriously don't think UAB will score a single point!

**IF YOU CAN GET ONE OF THOSE PROP BETS THAT WILL LET YOU TAKE AN O/U ON UAB'S TEAM POINT TOTAL IN THIS GAME, TAKE THE UNDER! I'M THINKING THEY MAY ACTUALLY GIVE UAB A 14 POINT TOTAL OR BETTER WHICH SHOULD BE EASY MONEY FOR US! BE LOOKING FOR IT!**

Marshall +17.5 vs. West Virginia: I've been reading some stuff in West Virginia papers on this game. It appears that Marshall has been campaigning to get this inner state game for several years. West Virginia players look at Marshall as a second rate team -- a stepchild so to speak. But, this is BIG to Marshall who wants to prove something in their state. It should provide a great deal of motivation as well whenever WVU comes into this game preseason ranked in the Top 10!!

Marshall returns a lot of players this season, albeit off a squad that went only 4-7. Still, experience and motivation should be just enough to keep this game within a couple of TDs. By game time, WVU fans may even have this line pumped up over 21!!

This game is being played by me more in the realm of "situational handicapping."

These are the three main plays I'm liking right now. I may have more later. Good luck, guys!
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Very nice analysis Play...

Thats great tidbits about West Virginia. I have inklings towards them..more for first half but I like this counterpoint and will have to weigh that in.

I like Houston a bit more as well. I love how a seasoned sytem is going against a brand new system.

Good cappin...look forward to more:cheers:
 
Miami -3.5 (would like to catch this below 3 by gametime) over FSU -- A lot of people will look at this play and say, "Well, that's going to be close, so I'm not playing it," but this is not a play that scares me all that much. FSU graduated nearly 65% of their defensive production, over a third of their WR and RB production. In contrast, Miami is only graduating 43% of their defensive production from a very good defensive unit and only 16% of their RB production. They are however, graduating 37% of their WR production. Both teams bring back their QBs. ANYTHING OVER 60% IS A SIGN THE UPCOMING SEASON WILL BE A DOWN YEAR! Phil Steele highlights this in his "Draft Day Hangover" article in his Preseason Magazine.

Here's another point: Are we prepared to say that Jeff Bowden's playcalling has improved enough to be high on this team? :nono:

I'm not a big trends player, but there is some very convincing trends in this series: FSU is 2-6 SU & ATS over last 7 years. The Canes are 19-1 SU & 10-4-1 ATS in home openers. Last season FSU was able to eek out a win in a close match-up even though Miami clearly dominated the game. But, with the Canes getting this one at home, you have to favor the trends in a revenge match.

Another thing transpired at the end of the season for Miami that I view as a positive. Coker cleaned out his staff of coaches who he proclaimed "had developed an atmosphere of contention." Now, he should have his entire staff moving the team in the direction he wants to go. This was a good move for Mack Brown at Texas a couple of years back, and it will be a good move for Coker this season!

I'm not going to be afraid to lay my money down on the Canes in this game and sit back on Labor Day night and watch it cash!

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Lets see. I don't know too much about College Football, but I still seem to get Lucky. At first glance, The games that look good to me would be...

N'Western -4

Akron +17

UCLA -5.5

Florida -17

Notre Dame -8 (Best Bet #1)

N.Texas +40 (Best Bet #2)

Miami(Florida) -3.5

Those seem like very solid plays from my point. Give me some insite on how you like them. Much Appreciated.
 
Sparky1019 said:
Lets see. I don't know too much about College Football, but I still seem to get Lucky. At first glance, The games that look good to me would be...

N'Western -4

Akron +17

UCLA -5.5

Florida -17

Notre Dame -8 (Best Bet #1)

N.Texas +40 (Best Bet #2)

Miami(Florida) -3.5

Those seem like very solid plays from my point. Give me some insite on how you like them. Much Appreciated.

Sparky, I'd be interested in seeing your reasoning behind the UCLA play. I'll have a write-up on this later, but I actually think Utah will have a shot to win this game SU!

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B.A.R. said:
I will be on Gators and lean towrds Akron heavily

I think I can see why you'd take Akron in this game. I'd be interested in seeing the TOTAL for that game. Akron is suppose to have one of their best defenses ever (although, it will still be a MAC defense, lol) and we all know what Paterno's defenses are like year after year. This may be a good UNDER play.
 
PlayWithMe said:
Sparky, I'd be interested in seeing your reasoning behind the UCLA play. I'll have a write-up on this later, but I actually think Utah will have a shot to win this game SU!

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Wow dude...we must think the same way. Not only am I taking Utah + the points, I will also take Utah on the ML for some cash money. The other two games I was eyeing at this point were Marshall + and Miami -3.5. Very happy to see someone agree with all three.


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I haven't made a final decision yet until I see preseason. Just like NFL. But at this point UCLA had a really good team last year. Even though it just came to me that they don't have lost Maurice Drew. But I still think them, as well as Miami (Florida) and Notre Dame will be the teams to contend with this year. No more initial reasoning to it. Sorry if this doesn't help out much.
 
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