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Grind_4_Mine · May 3, 2016

Saturday, May 14, 2016 - UFC 198 Game

10:00 PM

24301

Stipe Miocic

+140

o

Ov

2½

-135

o

24302

Fabricio Werdum

-160

o

Un

2½

+105

o

10:00 PM

24309

Anderson Silva

-125

o

24310

Uriah Hall

+105

o

10:00 PM

24313

Cristiane Justino

-1300

o

24314

Leslie Smith

+875

o

10:00 PM

24317

Ronaldo Souza

-305

o

24318

Vitor Belfort

+255

o

10:00 PM

24321

Demian Maia

-275

o

24322

Matt Brown

+235

o

Saturday, Jun 04, 2016 - UFC 199 Game

10:00 PM

24513

Bobby Green

+170

o

24514

Dustin Poirier

-200

o

11:00 PM

24501

Chris Weidman

+175

o

Ov

3½

-125

o

24502

Luke Rockhold

-205

o

Un

3½

-105

o

11:00 PM

24505

Urijah Faber

+430

o

Ov

4½

-215

o

24506

Dominick Cruz

-560

o

Un

4½

+175

o

Saturday, Jul 09, 2016 - UFC 200 Game

11:00 PM

24401

Jon Jones

-285

o

Ov

4½

-150

o

24402

Daniel Cormier

+245

o

Un

4½

+120

o

11:00 PM

24405

Amanda Nunes

+215

o

Ov

1½

-240

o

24406

Miesha Tate

-255

o

Un

1½

+190

o

11:00 PM

24409

Frankie Edgar

-110

o

Ov

4½

-130

o

24410

Jose Aldo

-110

o

Un

4½

+100

o

11:00 PM

99335

Kelvin Gastelum

+155

o

99336

Johny Hendricks

-180

o

11:00 PM

99337

Diego Sanchez

-115

o

99338

Joe Lauzon

-105

o

11:00 PM

99339

Enrique Marin

+255

o

99340

Sage Northcutt

-295

o

11:00 PM

99341

Travis Browne

+280

o

99342

Cain Velasquez

-340

o

11:00 PM

99343

Derek Brunson

+170

o

99344

Gegard Mousasi

-195

o

11:00 PM

99345

Takanori Gomi

+190

o

99346

Jim Miller

-225

o

Grind_4_Mine · May 3, 2016

Sunday, May 08, 2016 - UFC Fight Night 87 Game

02:05 PM

24249

Willie Gates

-155

Ov

1½

-150

24250

Yuta Sasaki

+135

Un

1½

+120

03:00 PM

24201

Andrei Arlovski

+185

Ov

1½

-105

24202

Alistair Overeem

-215

Un

1½

-125

03:00 PM

24205

Antonio Silva

+170

Ov

1½

+130

24206

Stefan Struve

-195

Un

1½

-160

03:00 PM

24209

Gunnar Nelson

+150

Ov

1½

-205

24210

Albert Tumenov

-175

Un

1½

+165

03:00 PM

24213

Anna Elmose

+285

Ov

2½

-115

24214

Germaine De Randamie

-350

Un

2½

-115

03:00 PM

24217

Francimar Barroso

+132

Ov

1½

-120

24218

Nikita Krylov

-152

Un

1½

-110

03:00 PM

24221

Heather Jo Clark

+210

Ov

2½

-275

24222

Karolina Kowalkiewicx

-250

Un

2½

+215

03:00 PM

24225

Chris Wade

+170

Ov

2½

-225

24226

Rustam Khabilov

-195

Un

2½

+185

03:00 PM

24229

Garreth McLellan

+235

Ov

1½

-180

24230

Magnus Cedenblad

-275

Un

1½

+150

03:00 PM

24233

Jon Tuck

+175

Ov

2½

-205

24234

Nick Hein

-205

Un

2½

+165

03:00 PM

24237

Reza Madadi

+150

Ov

2½

-205

24238

Yan Cabral

-175

Un

2½

+165

03:00 PM

24241

Neil Seery

+385

Ov

2½

-225

24242

Kyoji Horiguchi

-500

Un

2½

+185

03:00 PM

24245

Dominic Waters

+205

Ov

1½

-180

24246

Leon Edwards

-240

Un

1½

+150

Grind_4_Mine · May 3, 2016

https://www.gofundme.com/JordanParsons

:shake2:

Grind_4_Mine · May 3, 2016

http://www.mmanews.com/ufc-champion-luke-rockhold-discloses-injury-suffered-in-training/

Dollaz · May 3, 2016

I will just post in here.

I'm a sucker for these heavyweight unders. They use to kill it for me, but guys are more tentative. Glass jaw though so u1.5 Arlovksi/Overeem

Tumenov/Nelson is interesting. I could see a KO or a Nelson grappling display.

Lean to Wade, but looking more into it.

Gates sucks, may fade him.

Still looking into it.

Grind_4_Mine · May 3, 2016

Dollaz said:
I will just post in here.

I'm a sucker for these heavyweight unders. They use to kill it for me, but guys are more tentative. Glass jaw though so u1.5 Arlovksi/Overeem

Tumenov/Nelson is interesting. I could see a KO or a Nelson grappling display.

Lean to Wade, but looking more into it.

Gates sucks, may fade him.

Still looking into it.

Wade was one of the first that popped out at me... tough to pass on him at that price, and think he matches up decently vs the Russian Sambo style of fighting.

Grind_4_Mine · May 3, 2016

placed a few wagers for UFC Fight Night 87 on Sun, 5/8...

Struve wins by TKO/KO +115 1*
Struve wins in round 1 +170 1*
Chris Wade +170 1*

STEED · May 3, 2016

How is Big Foot still fighting? He's horrible.

Grind_4_Mine · May 3, 2016

STEED said:
How is Big Foot still fighting? He's horrible.

yeah Struve may knock Big Foot into retirement at 36.... last six losses have come by way of tko/ko in the first round, albeit against some bad mofos (Cormier, Cain twice, AA, Mir, Hunt). Now he's bout to face a seven-footer who has a 4.5-inch reach adv (longest reach in the UFC at 84.5) on him. GL with that

hard to believe Struve is only 28... made his UFC debut vs JDS a few days past his 21st bday back in Feb '09

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
placed a few wagers for UFC Fight Night 87 on Sun, 5/8...

Struve wins by TKO/KO +115 1*
Struve wins in round 1 +170 1*
Chris Wade +170 1*

Reem basically begged Dana to fight AA, who is/was a teammate of his at Jackson Wink, and went behind the gym's back to do it. Kinda comes off like Reem measured up AA in training and is very confident that he can destroy him. Jackson Wink will be cornering AA, and everyone interviewed from that camp appears to be sincerely pissed off at Reem. They were bound to cross paths sooner or later in such a small division, but AA seemed to want no part of this fight initially. Reem wants to return to Jackson Wink after the fight, but AA went on record to say he does not want to be his teammate again.

Going to ride the Reem momentum here, and hope whatever Reem was seeing in the gym training with AA, comes to fruition in the octagon.

Overeem by TKO/KO -118 1*

cogenman · May 4, 2016

Rockhold bloodied up and embarassed Weidman last time they fought. I think Weidman learns from his mistakes and gets focused and is a nice pick to redeem himself at +165 odds.

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

cogenman said:
Rockhold bloodied up and embarassed Weidman last time they fought. I think Weidman learns from his mistakes and gets focused and is a nice pick to redeem himself at +165 odds.

That fight was brutal to watch, and Weidman is lucky to not have suffered severe head trauma in that one (I'm sure he'll suffer the consequences from that one down the road). I was yelling at his father through my screen to throw in the fucking white towel on a couple different occasions.

I realize that the majority of fighters have this mindset, but Weidman has been been pretty vocal about the way he's going to avenge his loss...

"There's no question in my mind that I'm gonna go out there and make a statement, completely dominate him and make sure everybody knows the last fight was a fluke."

GL Cog

Dollaz · May 4, 2016

I had Rockhold last time, but will probably just watch this time. These are two guys I love to watch fight and the last fight exceeded my expectations. I just think Luke is the more well rounded fighter. No fighter comes in 100%, but he was completely gassed and still had the fighter mentality to keep going and finish Weidman.

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

Didn't Weidman claim to only be at like 10 to 20%? lol. I'll have to re-watch the fight again, but recall there being a turning point during the fight where Weidman did something pretty fucking stupid and got utterly dominated from that point forward. Maybe you could refresh my memory on what Weidman did, Dollaz.

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

"Bitch move" lol

Turning point in Rockhold/Weidman fight:

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/4/6/11381242/luke-rockhold-says-chris-weidmans-bitch-move-was-turning-point-in

cogenman · May 4, 2016

Like this vid. Rockhold seems confidant, as he should be. He won handily. But I think Weidman is going to come out on top. Nothing like a big L to motivate you and get you back.

[video=youtube;6ne8L13ztCc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ne8L13ztCc[/video]

Dollaz · May 4, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
Didn't Weidman claim to only be at like 10 to 20%? lol. I'll have to re-watch the fight again, but recall there being a turning point during the fight where Weidman did something pretty fucking stupid and got utterly dominated from that point forward. Maybe you could refresh my memory on what Weidman did, Dollaz.

Weidman tried that wheel kick. I don't trust any fighters though, all of them say they were only x% when they lose.

I view it differently though (assuming neither one had a major injury disadvantage): My notes from fight:

Round 1-Weidman controls much of the ground game, but Rockhold shows maturity and is able to get out of it (Luke is far superior in BJJ, Weidman obv in wrestling) Not a whole lot goes on here. Rockhold does start to show a nasty kicking game and counters a takedown with a pretty sick guillotine. Weidman wins round just from being on top. Rockhold tired already.

Round 2: Rockhold drops weidman with a right hook. Weidman clearly rocked. Kicks from Rockhold punish Weidman. The difference in power between the 2 fighters is big. Rockhold hurts Weidman when he connects. Rock stuffs a couple takedowns. Clear Rockhold round.

Round 3: Weidman gets takedown. Rockhold looks gassed. Rockhold gets up. Rockhold takes Weidman down. Dominates 10-8 Rockhold.

Round 4: Rockhold takes Weidman down. Gets mount. Ends it.

Overall, Weidman was not winning the fight when the attempted wheel kick happens. Both guys seemed to get gassed. Weidman won round 1 just from "being on top," but the Rockhold kicks had a lasting impact on Weidman. Rockhold schooled Weidman on the ground and dominated him on the feet. Did Weidman look bad because of injury or because he had no answer for the power or Rockhold?

How does Weidman win the rematch? Takedowns and control for 5 rounds? Can he do that to a stronger Rockhold that is much better at BJJ?

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

Dollaz said:
Weidman tried that wheel kick. I don't trust any fighters though, all of them say they were only x% when they lose.

I view it differently though (assuming neither one had a major injury disadvantage): My notes from fight:

Round 1-Weidman controls much of the ground game, but Rockhold shows maturity and is able to get out of it (Luke is far superior in BJJ, Weidman obv in wrestling) Not a whole lot goes on here. Rockhold does start to show a nasty kicking game and counters a takedown with a pretty sick guillotine. Weidman wins round just from being on top. Rockhold tired already.

Round 2: Rockhold drops weidman with a right hook. Weidman clearly rocked. Kicks from Rockhold punish Weidman. The difference in power between the 2 fighters is big. Rockhold hurts Weidman when he connects. Rock stuffs a couple takedowns. Clear Rockhold round.

Round 3: Weidman gets takedown. Rockhold looks gassed. Rockhold gets up. Rockhold takes Weidman down. Dominates 10-8 Rockhold.

Round 4: Rockhold takes Weidman down. Gets mount. Ends it.

Overall, Weidman was not winning the fight when the attempted wheel kick happens. Both guys seemed to get gassed. Weidman won round 1 just from "being on top," but the Rockhold kicks had a lasting impact on Weidman. Rockhold schooled Weidman on the ground and dominated him on the feet. Did Weidman look bad because of injury or because he had no answer for the power or Rockhold?

How does Weidman win the rematch? Takedowns and control for 5 rounds? Can he do that to a stronger Rockhold that is much better at BJJ?

Ah yes, the wheel kick, that's right. I was three sheets to the wind that night; thanks for refreshing my memory - good stuff. I personally think Rock wins the rematch as well, but aint laying that price, so I'll be on the sidelines with ya, Dollaz. I can also understand where Cog is coming from feeling like there's some value here as well at the current number. Looking forward to this one.

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

cogenman said:
Like this vid. Rockhold seems confidant, as he should be. He won handily. But I think Weidman is going to come out on top. Nothing like a big L to motivate you and get you back.

[video=youtube;6ne8L13ztCc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ne8L13ztCc[/video]

:shake2:

Dollaz · May 4, 2016

Agreed, I think Rockhold wins, but I'm not laying anywhere near that number.

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

Sunday, May 29, 2016 - UFC Fight Night 88 Game

10:00 PM

994701

Cody Garbrandt

+130

o

994702

Thomas Almeida

-150

o

10:00 PM

994703

Jeremy Stephens

+145

o

994704

Renan Barao

-170

o

Saturday, Jun 18, 2016 - UFC Fight Night 89 Game

10:00 PM

994801

Rory MacDonald

+100

o

994802

Stephen Thompson

-120

o

10:00 PM

994803

Donald Cerrone

-155

o

994804

Patrick Cote

+135

o

Friday, Jul 08, 2016 - UFC The Ultimate Fighter 23 Game

10:00 PM

995001

Claudia Gadelha

+170

o

995002

Joanna Jedrzejczyk

-195

o

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

Cody "No Love" Garbrandt vs Almeida should be an awesome fight. Two rising stars in the 135 division. Cody throws some of the best hands I've seen at any weight class thanks to his amateur boxing background. You don't see too many fighters with both wrestling and boxing backgrounds like Cody. And of course, Almeida is a bad ass as well via his Muay Thai striking... 21-0 (4-0 in UFC), 19 finishes - 16 by KO/TKO. Somebody is getting knocked out.

Why the hell is Rory vs Wonderboy headlining a Fight Night card? If I had to pick one fight out of any these to watch, that would be it.

Grind_4_Mine · May 4, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
https://www.gofundme.com/JordanParsons

:shake2:

shitty news: Jordan passed away today. RIP

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/5/4...agic-death-of-bellator-fighter-jordan-parsons

cogenman · May 5, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
shitty news: Jordan passed away today. RIP

http://www.mmafighting.com/2016/5/4...agic-death-of-bellator-fighter-jordan-parsons

Damn that's terrible. Hope they find the hit and run driver. RIP.

cogenman · May 6, 2016

Man lost in all these cards is Nate Diaz fighting again. Cause of Conor's ego, he doesn't have a fight. What I'd love to see is Nate fight Khabib at 200 if possible. Khabib just fought last month but so did Bones so timing wise it shouldn't be a problem. Khabib is a beast. The eagle IMO would beat Diaz. Injuries derailed him a little but he looks to be back. The eagle has landed!

cogenman · May 6, 2016

Also they had that fight between their crews in Vegas. So you know they hate each other already. Would be entertaining, the build up, then the fight. But I'm sure Nate wants Conor again because that's where the $$$ will be at.

Grind_4_Mine · May 6, 2016

I don't think Khabib would finish Nate, but he would toss him around like a rag doll for 3 to 5 rounds. Sounds like Conor/Nate 2 is in the works for 202 in August, Cog. Conor is obsessed with avenging his loss, and Nate has made it pretty clear he aint fighting anyone but Conor if he should fight again lol. Khabib has a one track mind right now and that is fighting for the title in his next bout. He will likely face the winner of RDA/Alvarez in the Fall, so a rematch with RDA looms.

Tony Ferguson vs Michael Chiesa to headline Fight Night 91 on July 13. Can't wait for that one.

Lawler-Woodley hasn't been confirmed yet for 201, thankfully. Hell, I'd rather see fucking Magny get the title shot over Woodley. Lawler shouldn't have any trouble disposing of a man who hasn't fought in a year and a half, so Lawler vs the Wonderboy/Rory winner appears likely to follow. We either get to see the Lawler/Rory trilogy (#2 was greatest fight of all time imo), or we witness Wonderboy become a bona fide superstar should he beat Rory and Lawler back to back to earn the welterweight title. Can't go wrong either way imo. If Lawler loses to Woodley or a potential fight with Rory/Wonderboy, Dana always has that Nick Diaz/Lawler rematch from a decade ago $$$ card in his back pocket that the fans would love to see should Lawler be interested in a $ fight instead of fighting for the belt again.

Speaking of Nick Diaz, will he return to fight at welterweight or middleweight?

Stylistically, I'd like to see Magny vs Condit (if he returns) and Hendricks vs Maia should Maia and Hendricks win their upcoming fights. Still in awe over the way Maia dominated Gunni.

Grind_4_Mine · May 6, 2016

rayer
[video=youtube;2_P81jIJ7YY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_P81jIJ7YY[/video]

Grind_4_Mine · May 6, 2016

Best round of all time?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19x0mc_diaz-vs-daley-full-fight-hd-strikeforce-april-9-2011_sport

ok, back on track.

Grind_4_Mine · May 6, 2016

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Not close to done at all. Very, very early in the game of re-booking that fight. <a href="https://t.co/ZO2oWqhHjo">https://t.co/ZO2oWqhHjo</a></p>— Ariel Helwani (@arielhelwani) <a href="https://twitter.com/arielhelwani/status/728711544712929281">May 6, 2016</a></blockquote>
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cogenman · May 6, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
Best round of all time?

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x19x0mc_diaz-vs-daley-full-fight-hd-strikeforce-april-9-2011_sport

ok, back on track.

Classic

cogenman · May 6, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
rayer
[video=youtube;2_P81jIJ7YY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_P81jIJ7YY[/video]

Man I felt so bad for Rory watching it that day, I wanted it to just end. His nose was so busted, man.

Grind_4_Mine · May 7, 2016

cogenman said:
Man I felt so bad for Rory watching it that day, I wanted it to just end. His nose was so busted, man.

Cringeworthy shit for sure. That fight put him out for a good while. Rory said he felt like he didn't go out on his sword in that one lol. What else would you expect from the world's best dressed serial killer?

Dollaz · May 7, 2016

Wade
Nelson
Silva
Madadi

Krylov u
Nelson u
Overeem

Grind_4_Mine · May 8, 2016

reminder: Rotterdam prelims on FS1 right now

dudleysdad · May 8, 2016

Give me some winners grind

cogenman · May 8, 2016

LOL at the start of the second round Cabral/Madadi. That was funny.

Grind_4_Mine · May 8, 2016

dudleysdad said:
Give me some winners grind

Dollaz and I played Chris Wade (last fight on prelims), but not much meat left on the bone (last I checked # was 145). It's an omen: Wade makes money on Wade.

cogenman · May 8, 2016

Wow, nice Madadi.

dudleysdad · May 8, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
Dollaz and I played Chris Wade (last fight on prelims), but not much meat left on the bone (last I checked # was 145). It's an omen: Wade makes money on Wade.

On it

Grind_4_Mine · May 8, 2016

cogenman said:
LOL at the start of the second round Cabral/Madadi. That was funny.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There's no time like bro time amirite?! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/UFCRotterdam?src=hash">#UFCRotterdam</a> <a href="https://t.co/z3ZnhORs27">https://t.co/z3ZnhORs27</a></p>— UFC (@ufc) <a href="https://twitter.com/ufc/status/729343320544010241">May 8, 2016</a></blockquote>
<script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

cogenman · May 8, 2016

cogenman · May 8, 2016

And after the hug Madidi proceeded to knock him out.

Grind_4_Mine · May 8, 2016

cogenman said:
And after the hug Madidi proceeded to knock him out.

psychological warfare: kill 'em with kindness

cogenman · May 8, 2016

Emmett should win but it's too bad his finger got fucked up. He could've got a unanimous decision. Probably a split decision now.

cogenman · May 8, 2016

nasty ass compound fracture on his hand, damn.

Grind_4_Mine · May 8, 2016

good call on the split decision win. man, he's lucky the ref didn't see it; bone was sticking right out... yikes

cogenman · May 8, 2016

Grind_4_Mine said:
good call on the split decision win. man, he's lucky the ref didn't see it; bone was sticking right out... yikes

Yeah, i could only imagine how painful that was.

cogenman · May 8, 2016

This dude's corner is fucking annoying. Every other word is "yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah" haha.

cogenman · May 8, 2016

Wade up, let's go.

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