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mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
Tonight of course I like Shev but odds are prohibitive

so my top 2 plays are...

Vicente Luque -220 - Perry is a known quantity, he can take a shot, he throws hard and he’s willing and ready to turn a fight into a brawl. Luque is more polished and in my opinion more well rounded then Perry, using his crisp boxing and striking techniques to get off on opponents who tend to leave themselves open. This is also not the first time Luque has faced a power puncher or a brawler, in fact, he seems to really excel in the role of matador. I expect Luque to be the sharper, more accurate fighter and to try and keep the fight at a range where Perry can’t clinch him. Perry being Perry will make this an interesting fight for sure and he’ll probably get off a good shot or two over the course of the bout but Luque has never been KO’d and I expect him to be able to control the forward pressure Perry brings with him. I see a decision win for Luque. Also, the reach advantage of Luque 75” to Perry’s 71” and the small height advantage (5’11 to 5’10) will give Luque some leeway to maneuver at range and hopefully stay out of the way of those Perry overhands. Luque also has decent sub game and it is quite possible there could be a stoppage here, just the decision is more likely considering Perry's durability. He could end up showing considerable damage and still surviving.

Volkan Oezdemir -160 - Volkan is technically on a 3-loss skid (SD to Reyes, a Sub loss to A. Smith, and a T/ko loss to D.C.) but, realistically, he won that fight with Reyes and looked really good in my opinion. Ilir Latifi is super jacked but physically looks small (height wise) in the division. My problem with Latifi is his super low output and against a guy like Volkan who pushes the pace, and has KO power in his hands this is a real problem. I’d be ok with it if Latifi made up for his lack of striking output with lots of takedowns but he only manages 1.89 on avg per 15 min w/ a low 32% accuracy. Oezdemir sports a solid 75% takedown rate as well. Lastly, Oezdemir is 6’2" w/ a reach of 75” whereas Latifi is 5’10 and has a reach of 73”. Along with that fact, Volkan is nearing his athletic prime at 29 years of age vs Latifi 36. Now 36 is not old but its also getting up there in age for a sport like MMA. I expect Oezdemir to outland and outwork Latifi, gassing him out by late 2nd rd and getting the KO in round 2 or 3.

Live dog: Oskar Piechota +190 - Not sure why they bringing new guy(Rodolfo Viera ) in who has faced nothing but cans assembling his 5-0 record. Oskar (11-1) has a strong but somewhat underrated grappling game, carries lots of KO power, so I do think we could see a KO so long as he can prevent the takedowns and stay off his back.
 

cogenman

Raider Nation for Life
Weak card tonight IMO. I'm only interested in watching the Mike Perry/Luque fight.

The only person I want Shevchenko to fight is Nunes who she lost twice to. That last fight was very close as she lost on a split decision.
 

cogenman

Raider Nation for Life
I didn't know but looks like Schevchenko lost to this Carmouche girl way back in 2010 in another league. Interesting.
 

mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
Leggo​
2205 Viana wins inside distance* +326 vs Not Viana inside distance
.6/1.96
2201 Polyana Viana* +115
1/1.15
 

mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
[1-2 -0.8]​
  1. 2001 Geraldo de Freitas* -160 vs Chris Gutierrez
    1.04/.65
  2. 2001 Geraldo de Freitas/Chris Gutierrez* Over 2½ -180
    1.08/.6


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mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
[2-3 -1.04]​
  1. 1907 Paiva wins by 3 round decision* +160 vs Not Paiva by 3 round decision
    .5/.8
  2. 1901 Raulian Paiva* -115 vs Rogerio Bontorin
    2.07/1.8
 

mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
[2-5 -3.61]​
  1. 1802 Tecia Torres* -155 vs Marina Rodriguez
    5.58/3.6
  2. 1801 Marina Rodriguez/Tecia Torres* Under 2½ +330
    1/3.3
 

mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
[2-7 -11.19]​
  • 1721 Gane wins in round 1* -120 vs Any other result
    1.2/1
  • 1733 Gane wins by TKO/KO* -260 vs Any other result
    2.34/.9
  • 1701 Raphael Pessoa/Cyril Gane* Under 1½ -172
    1.72/1
 

mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
[4-10 -17.73]​
  • 1333 Oezdemir wins by TKO/KO* +145 vs Any other result
    1.2/1.74
  • 1201 Humberto Bandenay/Luiz Eduardo Garagorri* Over 1½ -137
    1.37/1
  • 1302 Volkan Oezdemir* -170 vs Ilir Latifi
    5.1/3
  • 1401 Oskar Piechota* +190 vs Rodolfo Viera
    1.2/2.28
 

skanless13

Well-Known Member
Tonight of course I like Shev but odds are prohibitive

so my top 2 plays are...

Vicente Luque -220 - Perry is a known quantity, he can take a shot, he throws hard and he’s willing and ready to turn a fight into a brawl. Luque is more polished and in my opinion more well rounded then Perry, using his crisp boxing and striking techniques to get off on opponents who tend to leave themselves open. This is also not the first time Luque has faced a power puncher or a brawler, in fact, he seems to really excel in the role of matador. I expect Luque to be the sharper, more accurate fighter and to try and keep the fight at a range where Perry can’t clinch him. Perry being Perry will make this an interesting fight for sure and he’ll probably get off a good shot or two over the course of the bout but Luque has never been KO’d and I expect him to be able to control the forward pressure Perry brings with him. I see a decision win for Luque. Also, the reach advantage of Luque 75” to Perry’s 71” and the small height advantage (5’11 to 5’10) will give Luque some leeway to maneuver at range and hopefully stay out of the way of those Perry overhands. Luque also has decent sub game and it is quite possible there could be a stoppage here, just the decision is more likely considering Perry's durability. He could end up showing considerable damage and still surviving.

Volkan Oezdemir -160 - Volkan is technically on a 3-loss skid (SD to Reyes, a Sub loss to A. Smith, and a T/ko loss to D.C.) but, realistically, he won that fight with Reyes and looked really good in my opinion. Ilir Latifi is super jacked but physically looks small (height wise) in the division. My problem with Latifi is his super low output and against a guy like Volkan who pushes the pace, and has KO power in his hands this is a real problem. I’d be ok with it if Latifi made up for his lack of striking output with lots of takedowns but he only manages 1.89 on avg per 15 min w/ a low 32% accuracy. Oezdemir sports a solid 75% takedown rate as well. Lastly, Oezdemir is 6’2" w/ a reach of 75” whereas Latifi is 5’10 and has a reach of 73”. Along with that fact, Volkan is nearing his athletic prime at 29 years of age vs Latifi 36. Now 36 is not old but its also getting up there in age for a sport like MMA. I expect Oezdemir to outland and outwork Latifi, gassing him out by late 2nd rd and getting the KO in round 2 or 3.

Live dog: Oskar Piechota +190 - Not sure why they bringing new guy(Rodolfo Viera ) in who has faced nothing but cans assembling his 5-0 record. Oskar (11-1) has a strong but somewhat underrated grappling game, carries lots of KO power, so I do think we could see a KO so long as he can prevent the takedowns and stay off his back.
Completely agree re Luque.
 

mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
[7-11 -11.99]​
  1. 1142 Luque points handicap* -3½ -155 vs Perry points handicap
    any victory inside distance is a winner for selected fighter, see sportsbook rules for grading details
    3.72/2.4
  2. 8/10/2019 10:00 PM Reduced Fighting 1101 Mike Perry/Vicente Luque* Over 1½ -172
    1.72/1
  3. 8/10/2019 10:00 PM Reduced Fighting 1102 Vicente Luque* -225 vs Mike Perry
    9/4
 

mrpickem

SDQL Badass Stat Boss
[9-12 -9.71]​
  1. 1009 Shevchenko wins inside distance* +109 vs Not Shevchenko inside distance
    2/2.18
  2. 1001 Liz Carmouche/Valentina Shevchenko* Over 3½ -132
    1.32/1
 

cogenman

Raider Nation for Life
This main event sucks so far. Idk if it's the crowd, or lack of fighting. I think nothing is going on that's why the crowd is silent.
 

cogenman

Raider Nation for Life
Unless there are some corrupt judges, Schevchenko easily by unanimous decision.

Next week will be better. There's too many cards lately. And a bunch more coming. A little watered down lately.
 

Sammy Meatballs

It's Not A Lie, If You Believe It...
Card of the year coming next week..

No women's fights- Check
No bantamweight- Check

Solid good 5 fights between SKILLED MARTIAL artists...

Uff is smart-- Put on a bunch of crappy cards this summer and then when college football and NFL is going to start they unleash their best cards uff 241..

Then the big event in ABU DHABI with KHABIB was also strategically placed right when the NFL season starts..

Should be a great card next week.. Looking forward to watching it.
 

Big daddy naught

Well-Known Member
Card of the year coming next week..

No women's fights- Check
No bantamweight- Check

Solid good 5 fights between SKILLED MARTIAL artists...

Uff is smart-- Put on a bunch of crappy cards this summer and then when college football and NFL is going to start they unleash their best cards uff 241..

Then the big event in ABU DHABI with KHABIB was also strategically placed right when the NFL season starts..

Should be a great card next week.. Looking forward to watching it.
Looking fwd to Saturday as well.

Wish that Abu Dhabi card was in Vegas do it didn’t have a funky start time.
 

cogenman

Raider Nation for Life
Watched the first two episodes of embedded for UFC 241. Anthony Pettis seems a little too confidant and might not be taking Diaz seriously. That's a big mistake if he does. He's saying he already won basically. Pettis is also saying it's personal.

Stipe looks good in shape. DC the usually flabby, but that's not usually a knock on him.

They haven't shown Romero or Costa yet. I wanna see where their minds are. And if they're in shape.
 

Sammy Meatballs

It's Not A Lie, If You Believe It...
And the greatest thing about this card is there's no overly huge favorite. All fighters can be taken.

Anyone watched the One Fc fights?

They are crazy fights, very fast paced and lots of submission attempts.
I find one fc pace to be very fast as the fighters look to finish the other fighter fast.

Where as in the Ufc it’s less of martial arts these days and almost exclusively turned into a Wrestling base with boxing with some kicks.

Turning big American nfl style athletes into fighters. Greg hardy etc. Guys that are athletic but have no martial arts experience can learn Ufc fighting by training in wrestling and some boxing..

I know a guy who made the Ufc and he knows no martial arts. He was a wrestler but had no real martial arts ability. But he made the Ufc.

One fc on other hand is home of martial arts and has bloodsport style battles with philipino Mongolian japan South Korea Singapore Malaysian fighters.

Check out some fights. Remind me of pride.
 

cogenman

Raider Nation for Life
Anyone watched the One Fc fights?

They are crazy fights, very fast paced and lots of submission attempts.
I find one fc pace to be very fast as the fighters look to finish the other fighter fast.

Where as in the Ufc it’s less of martial arts these days and almost exclusively turned into a Wrestling base with boxing with some kicks.

Turning big American nfl style athletes into fighters. Greg hardy etc. Guys that are athletic but have no martial arts experience can learn Ufc fighting by training in wrestling and some boxing..

I know a guy who made the Ufc and he knows no martial arts. He was a wrestler but had no real martial arts ability. But he made the Ufc.

One fc on other hand is home of martial arts and has bloodsport style battles with philipino Mongolian japan South Korea Singapore Malaysian fighters.

Check out some fights. Remind me of pride.
I never watched One FC but hear a lot about it. Whee can we watch them? If it's anything like Pride, it's gotta be good. Pride was the shit back in the day. It reminded me of Bloodsport.
 

Sammy Meatballs

It's Not A Lie, If You Believe It...
I never watched One FC but hear a lot about it. Whee can we watch them? If it's anything like Pride, it's gotta be good. Pride was the shit back in the day. It reminded me of Bloodsport.
You can watch the fights on you tube Bro.. It is like pride-- It has the exact same boxing style ring with the white ropes.
I youtube the fights and watch them...

Some fighters to watch on you tube are--

Martin Nguyen
Bibiano Fernandez
Christian Lee
Aung la n sang

Fighters are pure bloodsport style fighters- they look like bloodsport guys---

They seem to be very entertaining-- Just watch Eddie Alvarez last fight in One FC and its crazy-

One FC is exactly like European Rugby, Aussie Rules football vs the NFL--

The UFC just has bigger athletes- End of the day its true- Usman and Khabib are massive for 170 and 155 alike.

Usman is a middleweight and could likely be a light heavyweight also- Khabib is easily a middleweight also.

One FC is different in that fighters do not cut weight- They use a Hydration test instead--

One Fc does not have a deep heavyweight division but they seem to have all the lighter weight classes like 135-200 pounds full of good fighters--

The One FC fighters are schooled in real martial arts and I have noticed their leg Kicks are BRUTAL- Last match Eddie Alvarez won by submission but his opponent kicked Eddie's leg so hard he basically fell to the ground as if he was shot- They seem to be skilled in may thai and kickboxing--

The submissions and technical ability of the fighters is really high-- Watch Martin Nguyen and his timing on his punches-

One FC is no joke-- Both Eddie Alvarez and D Johnson have struggled there-- Alvarez got knocked out right away and almost lost his second fight--

I believe its a more true martial arts and i find the UFC is point boxing now full of wrestlers.
 

Sammy Meatballs

It's Not A Lie, If You Believe It...
I never watched One FC but hear a lot about it. Whee can we watch them? If it's anything like Pride, it's gotta be good. Pride was the shit back in the day. It reminded me of Bloodsport.
One FC is about respect and tradition- No trash talking etc-- Just real fighters scrapping pride style---

One FC has a larger market than the UFC due to the population of the area that ONE FC is dominant in--

Eventually it should surpass the UFC overall-- UFC is trying to get into the China market but it will not be successful because ONE FC does not tolerate the UFC nonsense like McGregor etc----

One FC has hired RICH FRANKLIN as a senior guy and Meisha Tate to develop their product further--

A typical card also could have a MMA match followed by a Kickboxing match by a MUAY THAI match, so it has different martial arts styles on the same card--

Trust me watch these fights- They are crazy entertaining-- UFC is also getting more entertaining ex- Gastellum Adesanya,, Perry Luque in which strikes are landing but its slow paced--

Watch ONE FC and see the fighters, they try to end these really fast it seems-- Must be the fact that their athletes are not bigger wrestling types like Colby, Cormier, khabib, Askren Maia, who like to slow things down.
The One FC guys fight fast and are crazy good at submissions--
As they are generally skinnier than UFC guys they are more agile and real martial artists imo
 

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